Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Jun 13, 2012 14:01:32 GMT -5
I'd say that the setting will still be "everywhere and nowhere" as was ASoUE, even if it shows various cultural influence from the US and Britain.
Also, regarding the ending: could the client be Ellington Feint? And could she (or whoever the client is) be the one asking "who could that be at this hour?"?
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jun 13, 2012 14:05:57 GMT -5
If so, Feint will be playing a bigger role than I think we suspected. How would the text of "Who is Ellington Feint?" fit into this scenario, then, if it's taking place during the day?
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Post by Sophie Baudelaire on Jun 13, 2012 14:41:38 GMT -5
If so, Feint will be playing a bigger role than I think we suspected. How would the text of "Who is Ellington Feint?" fit into this scenario, then, if it's taking place during the day? Maybe something happens that causes Lemony and Theodora to spend more time with her than they had intended. You're right; that is a possibility. I was wondering why the name rang a bell. |
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Post by B. on Jun 13, 2012 15:18:50 GMT -5
I was given the impression that Lemony's friend he refers to is Beatrice, but I could easily be wrong.
When I read the bit about the "most stainable ink" I instantly though of the coded stain, although that was coffee, not ink, and also the ink on the man's coat from TUA, which was ink not coffee.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Jun 13, 2012 15:31:14 GMT -5
I was rereading the text and these lines struck me: I wondered where all the water had gone when they’d drained this part of the sea, and I should have wondered. But I told myself it was the wrong question and asked something else instead. Could this be foreshadowing, indicating that the sea will return from wherever it was removed to (maybe behind a hidden dam), flooding the town? |
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Post by Hermes on Jun 13, 2012 15:34:52 GMT -5
I was given the impression that Lemony's friend he refers to is Beatrice, but I could easily be wrong. The person he was planning to meet was surely Beatrice, but I got the impression the friend who knows about underwater things is someone else. |
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Post by Dante on Jun 13, 2012 15:36:00 GMT -5
Could this be foreshadowing, indicating that the sea will return from wherever it was removed to (maybe behind a hidden dam), flooding the town? I'd also considered this; perhaps this is the ultimate fate of Stain'd-by-the-Sea, destroyed, or at least once again isolated, by a nemesis created from its environmental depredations. |
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Post by allegedly bryan on Jun 13, 2012 16:14:30 GMT -5
I'm wondering how exactly the ink extraction things work. I thought that maybe ink that was previously released is just being extracted, but then Markson went on about how the needles would certainly scare the octopi. So are there live octopi living in some underground system or something?
I also thought it was interesting that on page 31 the creature he chose to reference was a leech.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Jun 13, 2012 17:14:13 GMT -5
Markson states that the octopi live in "long, narrow caves" like wells (inkwells). The needles frighten the octopi and then suck up the ink they instinctively shoot out. I also wondered about the leech reference-- perhaps VFD has tried to train the Lachrymose Leeches as attack creatures? I'd also considered this; perhaps this is the ultimate fate of Stain'd-by-the-Sea, destroyed, or at least once again isolated, by a nemesis created from its environmental depredations. If there's a library in town, and Lemony is somehow responsible for the flood, that would also take care of that bit of foreshadowing from Chapter 1. |
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Post by Johanna on Jun 13, 2012 17:23:29 GMT -5
Concerning the woman who knew about undersea life - what if it was Fiona's mother? The one who "died" in the manatee accident?
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Post by C. on Jun 13, 2012 18:16:54 GMT -5
What if Stain'd by the Sea is Briny Beach? I have nothing to go on right now, but just throwing that out there.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jun 13, 2012 18:30:40 GMT -5
A further idea: Someone in the Apprentice Case thread noted that the octopus in Ink Inc's logo has only six arms (making it a hexapus). Could that be the meaning of "The Lost Arms"? That would be me; and yes, that's an excellent observation! The name fits a popular name structure for pubs or hotels [remember the labeled soap bar from the promo attache case; like labeled napkins, it's something more likely to be found in hotels] and could also be a reference to the missing arms in Ink Inc.'s logo. Just like "Stain'd by the Sea"; it fits a popular name structure (of towns) and makes several references to its own characteristics, like the ink production. Or Ink Inc's slogan "There's nothing darker," meaning ink as well as intentions (probably). This double meaning to things, I think, we'll keep finding in this novel, and should be looking out for. Also, this emerging importance of undersea life makes me think more and more that this novel (or series) will be indeed about the birth of "The Great Unknown." Whatever that is. Oh, I also took the time to "finish" (i.e. color) the unfinished Chapter 2 illustration and the Ink Inc. logo, if anyone's interested:   |
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Jun 13, 2012 18:41:47 GMT -5
*screams and faints*
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Post by Dante on Jun 14, 2012 1:44:04 GMT -5
Very nice work on the colouration, Terry Craig. It looks so plausible.
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Post by Invisible on Jun 14, 2012 6:58:01 GMT -5
Am I the only one who's tickled by the fact that it looks like he's written, "Mrs. Snicket"? For some reason, the Handler/Snicket pairing seems to work. SQUEE.
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