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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Nov 19, 2012 10:05:19 GMT -5
So are we starting with book 3 today or not?
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Nov 19, 2012 10:12:53 GMT -5
Okay! Book 3 Begins Here!
--Chapter One--
Handler reads the audio book for this book, and I think the next. Although he is not as good as tim curry, he does have something special.
--Chapter Two--
Sunnsy comment ‘why on earth would you go swimming in a lake full fo leeches# is quite a good question.
Also, know would be a good time to talk about memories I have of reading TWW. I have only one, and I was reading it at school (around year 3 ( or third grade) which would make it 2002/3). And I rember reading the moent where we are lrd to belive josiephen had killed herself, and feeling quite sad, and then snicket says she is not dead - yet, and I suddenly got all excited.
Edit ; Anka! I only just noticed your post! Yes, sorry, I normally post my ntoes first thing, but i wanted to show the images from book 2 first, and leave time for people to look at them!
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Nov 19, 2012 10:18:58 GMT -5
Many useless points for the first two chapters...
Chapter 1:
- Aunt Josephine lost her husband „recently“. I always thought that he already was dead for a while, but I think it's because I never read this book before. - Mr. Poe says „I will think of the Baudelaires as often as I can.“ I think it's strange that he doesn't say „you“ but „the Baudelaires“. And the whole sentence is strange. How can anyone think of someone as often as he can?It sounds as if it's unpleasant work to think of them.
Chapter 2:
- Aunt Josephine is awesome. Even more awesome than I expected. - Aunt Josephine says that she and her husband didn't have any children because they („we“) were afraid to. But she wasn't scared of Lake Lachrymose before Ike died. I wonder if they both were always scared of many things or if they just were afraid to have children because they knew that it's dangerous because of VFD? - Okay, that's not important at all but how can an oval room be behind a straight wall? - J. hopes that I is „someplace very, very hot“. When I hear of dead people being someplace very, very hot I think of hell. But I think that's just me and it's a coincidence.
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Post by B. on Nov 19, 2012 11:20:49 GMT -5
Thank-you for the new illustration scans, MisterM, I've never seen those before. The illustration of Monty is particularly striking as apart from the cover of book 2 we never really see his face.
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Post by Dante on Nov 19, 2012 11:31:24 GMT -5
The Wide Window, or, Disappearance! also features the only known illustration of Aunt Josephine, so watch out for that. Her hair looks like a cake.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Nov 19, 2012 11:31:27 GMT -5
Aw, shucks...
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Post by epershand on Nov 19, 2012 18:10:52 GMT -5
Those illustrations of TRR are so cool. The proportions do seem weird in the last one, but it's great to be able to see close-up scenes of the plot anyway.
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Post by theaquasprite on Nov 19, 2012 19:13:52 GMT -5
Handler reads the audio book for this book, and I think the next. Although he is not as good as tim curry, he does have something special. He reads book five too, I think. Somewhat related, I also had listened to some of the audio books (3, 4 8 and 11.) I remember listening to one of the ones said to be narrated Snicket, and ten-year-old me's mind was blown, simply because that was not how I imagined his voice. Curry, I think, came closer to it. From what I remember, I think you're right; while not perfect, he did have a quality of his own. Of course, I can't give an accurate comparison now since it's been so long, and any audio exerpts I can find are the ones with Curry. Chapter one: Extremely insignificant question but, is Look! It Fits! ever mentioned again? I inexplicably love that name. I know there's a thread on this somewhere, but everytime I think of the Anxious Clown, I think of McDonalds. Chapter Two: Interesting how the Baudelaires never seem to get presents they actually like. Twice here, and in TEE. Is it a trend for adults to treat Violet and Klaus younger than they are? I'll let Josephine slide, considering if she wants to teach an infant who hasn't completely developed language skills, the ways of children are beyond her. It just seems in general adults treat them like children younger than 12-14. Not as good as the fireproof canoe, but Josephine's afraid of fire. But she's afraid of everything, so it doesn't matter as much, I guess.
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Post by Charlie on Nov 19, 2012 19:36:01 GMT -5
My notes on Anka's notes - Aunt Josephine lost her husband „recently“. I always thought that he already was dead for a while, but I think it's because I never read this book before. As did I. Is this fact significant in any way. I am thinking of the part of UA where someone is sending something to Ike (I can't remember who it is) - Mr. Poe says „I will think of the Baudelaires as often as I can.“ I think it's strange that he doesn't say „you“ but „the Baudelaires“. And the whole sentence is strange. How can anyone think of someone as often as he can?It sounds as if it's unpleasant work to think of them. When I read your comment, I immediately thought that he might be thinking of the deceased Baudelaire parents, or the entire Baudelaire family inc. parents. Maybe this is why it is unpleasant to think of them. - Aunt Josephine is awesome. Even more awesome than I expected. Why can't people accept this. If she was younger it would be like "hotsexynosextimewithJoesphine" - Aunt Josephine says that she and her husband didn't have any children because they („we“) were afraid to. But she wasn't scared of Lake Lachrymose before Ike died. I wonder if they both were always scared of many things or if they just were afraid to have children because they knew that it's dangerous because of VFD? Nice thought. It seems that Josephine and Ike were rather estranged from VFD, in that the only VFD related things I can think of are Realtors, Anxious Clown, Ivan Lachrymose Lake Explorer. - Okay, that's not important at all but how can an oval room be behind a straight wall? Perhaps there is some sort of hidden spaces behind the two round bits? Or maybe the rooms next door were just shaped weirdly. I don't know. - J. hopes that I is „someplace very, very hot“. When I hear of dead people being someplace very, very hot I think of hell. But I think that's just me and it's a coincidence. Yes, that's what I originally thought. Then I thought that perhaps there was somewhere hot and VFD related that might have picked him up before he died. Like, perhaps the GU is very hot, or the Carmelita has a hot engine room. I don't really know Whew
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Nov 20, 2012 3:32:09 GMT -5
If she was younger it would be like "hotsexynosextimewithJoesphine" - This just deserves to be repeated
I don't know. - The WW as a whole can be summed up like that
--Chapter Three--
Josephine seems really stern with sunny, surely she can excuse the grammatical errors of a baby.
And now, plot hole time! Although Josephine not recognising olaf is a bit more excusable, as there is less of a chance they would have met, surely she would recognise the disguise from the disguise kit!
Another appearance of lemony not being as brave
Sunny would rather eat dirt, which is something she supposedly did pre book 1.
Why would Poe say the bauds see olaf everywhere? It’s only been once!
--Chapter Four--
I love the way olaf is never reoffered to as olaf when he is disguised. By snicket, I mean.
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Post by Charlie on Nov 20, 2012 3:49:12 GMT -5
I guess it can be explained away by Josephine not being a very active member of VFD. Or perhaps she had just never received disguise training, and thus had not been aware of the existence of this disguise. I don't know. By the way MisterM, I added the hotsexynosextimewithJoesphine line to my Facebook quotations, and am aiming to do something about it later maybe... I don't know. Nothing will happen, so don't get excited.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Nov 20, 2012 3:52:05 GMT -5
Its too late. my head is on the celing so my typing might go insane any iewhiujsbhvcbfeuuvbsvedvewfbnu
Oh, and stay away from my beloved.
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Post by Charlie on Nov 20, 2012 4:45:44 GMT -5
Its too late. my head is on the celing so my typing might go insane any iewhiujsbhvcbfeuuvbsvedvewfbnu Oh, and stay away from my beloved. She was my beloved first!
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Post by Dante on Nov 20, 2012 10:00:08 GMT -5
As far as I know, Look! It fits! is never mentioned again. The town of Lake Lachrymose actually reminds me a little of Stain'd, at least during the off-peak periods when there aren't any tourists around. I imagine that Handler was going for the same sort of thing when he wrote both, although of course he did a far more comprehensive job on Stain'd.
As for the Baudelaires being treated as younger than they are, I think that's just a matter of a lot of adults in the series not understanding children very well.
Oh, and the "someplace very, very hot" reference is I think pretty obviously a Hell joke. That is, the joke is that Josephine's imagined happy afterlife for Ike fits most people's conceptions of Hell.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Nov 21, 2012 14:25:04 GMT -5
Chapter 3: - Is „It always scared me“ really grammatically referring to the ankle? That's something not even I would have noticed... - Sunny can say that it wasn't nice to point out Klaus' mistake, because nobody understands. And there have been other situations like that. So it's almost a privilege for Sunny that she's not able to speak correctly, because she has the chance to be honest. - „He was smiling eagerly at her as if she were a brightly wrapped birthday present that he couldn't wait to rip open.“ No comment. Chapter 4: - Josephine's fear of the phone goes away when it really gets dangerous to answer it. - A person who loves grammar shouldn't say „What?“ - Wow, I thought Josephine being gone and the note and all was much later than chapter 4. Chapter 5: - Klaus talking about the letter „... she says 'my life will be at it's end'“ and Violet answering „and now it is“. Tha's a nice way of making the reader remember that „it's“ means „it is“. For those who haven't noticed the mistakes yet shortly before it is revealed. - Why are there candles in Aunt Josephine's house? Shouldn't she be afraid of fire? Chapter 6: - I like the part when Mr. Poe reminds them that they thought that Stephano was Count Olaf and when they say he was he says „That's not the point.“ That's a sentence children must hear often. - The what what scene and the Stupid with an S scene in chapter 5 show that the Baudelaires are normal siblings. - You can't invent more time. That's my problem too.
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