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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jan 1, 2014 14:41:39 GMT -5
I do see where you're coming from, Anka, on not calling anyone awful, and that it is hurtful to you. However, keep in mind that s is not singling you out but reacting to, as he said, the dominant power structure that he has to deal with 24 hours a day. I think if anyone has the right to call straight people awful, s does.
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Post by penne on Jan 1, 2014 18:28:21 GMT -5
sort of unrelated question to s, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but how would you prefer us to call you? I've been told you like "ze"?
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jan 1, 2014 18:50:38 GMT -5
^ Actually I wondered that too. I used he in my post but wondered if that was correct or not but was trying not to derail my own post directed towards Anka.
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Post by s on Jan 2, 2014 10:02:20 GMT -5
What about just not calling anyone awful? I feel hurt when people call me awful, no matter if they call the majority of the world awful and I just happen to be one of these people or if they say it's just me who is awful, so I don't do that to anyone. but sometimes people/things are awful and when they are, why shouldn't you call them that? saying "the majority of straight people are awful" is a pretty different thing from saying "you anka specifically are a terrible person" -- it's not even a statement about individual straight people necessarily, and certainly not a statement about you; it's about the yes!! awful! culture they've created and that perpetuates very real violence of varying degrees like, literally all the time. like if there were a hypothetical world in which most people really liked strawberry ice cream and hated butter pecan, to the extent that people who liked butter pecan were broadly treated as a joke in the media (if represented at all), told their ice cream tastes were weird and disgusting and perverse and morally wrong, and sometimes beaten up or killed or locked up because of how gross all the strawberry-liking folks thought they were. so then, right, in the face of all of this, the folks who like butter pecan get together and act as a support system for one another and create alternate family structures and social spaces and generally find ways to exist in the world even though supposedly their desires make them abnormal and less than human. even though until they were fifteen they didn't even realize they were ALLOWED to like butter pecan, didn't even realize that was a way they could feasibly exist at all. and having this new space to live in is really beautiful and freeing and it's like such an amazing thing to be able to sit around and eat butter pecan ice cream with other people who get it and won't be indifferent at best or violent at worst when they see what's going on but who like, intuitively understand what it means to like butter pecan and like all the salsa that comes with that. and when these butter pecan types get together they're like, "you know, that strawberry-liking world, and all those strawberry-liking people -- they're really awful, huh?" they're right, aren't they? objectively speaking? i mean okay: there were a few kids in the butter pecan group whose parents had told them it was okay to eat any type of ice cream they wanted, there were definitely people who only spent a little bit of time with other butter pecan liking people and lived pretty healthy and fulfilled lives surrounded by strawberry-eating folks who were pretty chill about the whole butter pecan quirk. but on the whole, that entire world was like -- alienating as potato , you know? awful! awful! awful! and so the strawberry-liking friends of the butter pecan folks, when the butter pecan folks feel safe enough around them to be like "you know, this whole strawberry-liking thing is actually really terrible"? they're not like "how dare you call me awful!!!11" you know? they're like, "yeah, i get it, and i'm super sorry it's like that, and i'm totally working to get my other strawberry-eating friends to see all those things you mentioned earlier and like stop doing even the little things that can make a butter-pecan-eating person feel uncomfortable or misplaced around them and like work to build a more beautiful world in which differences between people are like actually embraced in a way that's not tokenizing or otherwise gross but just like, an actual genuine thing" ok anyway that's about all i've got to say on this, i think i'm just talking in circles at this point oh wait but also two more things: (1) if someone's only ever met one lgbtq+ person it's probably because the rest of the queer folks around them haven't told that person, and (2) i use he or they pronouns thanks for asking!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 2:43:17 GMT -5
ankas totally gonna be a massive fag hag in like five years, i have 100% faith, believe
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 3, 2014 11:36:15 GMT -5
literally nothing she said in this thread supports your claim
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Post by BSam on Jan 3, 2014 11:38:38 GMT -5
except for the law of brilliant irony.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 3, 2014 13:31:45 GMT -5
i guess I'm not smart enough to have figured that out
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Jan 3, 2014 13:52:44 GMT -5
The only irony I can see is that I don't even know what that means. I mean whatever I'm going to be or not or whatever.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 3, 2014 13:55:11 GMT -5
what i want to know is if sloka was able to figure out who kyle was just by his posts
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Post by s on Jan 3, 2014 14:42:03 GMT -5
no i don't know who anyone is! is he bsam because bsam doesn't sound like bsam.
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Post by BSam on Jan 3, 2014 14:48:36 GMT -5
I am BSam. Do I not sound like me?
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Jan 4, 2014 17:36:22 GMT -5
I realised that I don't even think about if people are gay or not, I think I just think everyone is nothing until they talk about a boyfriend or girlfriend, it doesn't even come into my mind before that.
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Post by Charlie on Jun 9, 2014 5:55:46 GMT -5
I'm really sorry if this thread has been unpleasant for you s, I don't know if we've E-met, I'm Charlie. I dunno, do you come here anymore? If not nvm. If so, then yay. Nice to meet you
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Post by BSam on Jun 9, 2014 5:57:28 GMT -5
#notallstraightpeople !
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