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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 1, 2014 17:04:02 GMT -5
Thanks a lot bandito, but Terry kindly directed me to this thread, with the comic scan  |
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Post by Agathological on Aug 1, 2014 17:15:16 GMT -5
Well; at least he is digging them out!
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Post by Skelly Craig on Aug 1, 2014 17:44:41 GMT -5
This is incredible news! I certainly can wait some more if there's brand new ASoUE Helquist artworks to look forward to : D I love that Helquist is keeping in touch with his fanbase, I've already seen him explaining his illustration process on his blog and respond to individual questions. And yeah I posted the Sebald Code comic three weeks ago on thesnicketfile as well; I was really excited when I found that old thread. He posted a compositional plan of The Bad Beginning's cover on his blog once. Would you care to share a link to that? I'm not sure if I've seen those. Heh and maybe I should take the confusion surrounding my username as a hint to change it back... eh, maybe soon, I'm still enjoying this one |
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 1, 2014 17:48:30 GMT -5
It sure is, Agathological! I do enjoy looking at old things like that. I have a newspaper entirely based upon the series, especially for the film, from when I was about eleven years old. Perhaps I will look for that and scan it in tomorrow. I don't know if anybody would share my enthusiasm but I'm drawing a Quagmire (non-specific right now) and thought how exciting it would be if, albeit unlikely, Helquist did start on The Austere Academy paperback and drew the triplets in finer detail. They are my favourite characters in both series by Snicket. Here is The Bad Beginning's draft sketch.Really interesting to see such a rough design like that- we don't often see work in such early stages like that. At about fourteen minutes into this video, he talks about learning how he could benefit from rough drawings and the importance of composition to him. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 1, 2014 21:39:12 GMT -5
Groundbreaking discovery, Pevalwen! I certainly never would have expected to find Hypnotism!'s art on such an unsuspecting page. I agree with Terry/BEHOD - it's great that Helquist is keeping in touch with his fanbase.
Concerning TBB: Although I'm not familiar with many illustrators' processes, the TBB sketch seems almost uniquely rudimentary - it was interesting to read about the inspiration.
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2014 2:27:13 GMT -5
It is interesting to see how rough the TBB cover started out as (and it looks like the final image was flipped horizontally), but it is a reminder that, aye, great art does start basic, and then you build it up and build it up, layer by layer. I don't really draw, I don't have the talent for it, but occasionally I'm inclined to think about how I would handle drawing something, and I go about a similar method of composition - at first you just throw down a bunch of ultra-rough shapes to get a feel for what the different elements would look like in terms of overall structure and how they fit together. I came up with a rough draft for how I'd revise ATWQ's cover composition recently using a similar method; I might post it sometime.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 2, 2014 2:41:16 GMT -5
Please do- it would be lovely to see! And interesting, considering your objection to the quality of the current covers  EDIT: While we wait for the new images, it might be of interest to some to see a drawing Helquist did for me last Christmas. With the print that I had ordered, I knew that he would provide a note of thanks, so I requested that he made a small drawing for me. I doubt that there are hundreds of Lady Gaga fans here, but that is who he drew for me and this is my deconstruction of the piece.In my analysis, I pick out the raw features of his style and how they may hypothetically develop into something refined at a later stage. I mention this because it relates to the conversation regarding his rough plan of The Bad Beginning's cover in this thread. |
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Post by Skelly Craig on Aug 2, 2014 7:01:40 GMT -5
Nice, I enjoyed your pointing out of Helquist character design conventions through this drawing.
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Post by Hermes on Aug 2, 2014 13:10:13 GMT -5
Terry, is it OK to link to things that are on your site? I've spotted a couple of things there recently which I felt deserved discussion at 667. This cartoon is really significant - it adds a ninth to the eight known examples of Sebald Code, and I think it is only the fourth we know by Sebald himself. It may have some implications for the plot as well.
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Post by bandit on Aug 2, 2014 13:18:00 GMT -5
It was my understanding that the magazine was put together entirely by people working on the movie (aside from the Helquist contribution, of course) so while there are some references to the series, I would be hesitant to consider any of it as canon.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Aug 2, 2014 14:38:44 GMT -5
Terry, is it OK to link to things that are on your site? I've spotted a couple of things there recently which I felt deserved discussion at 667. This cartoon is really significant - it adds a ninth to the eight known examples of Sebald Code, and I think it is only the fourth we know by Sebald himself. It may have some implications for the plot as well. By all means, Hermes, but as mentioned before, the cartoon is actually from 667 (scanned by Antenora in 2004). I personally wouldn't take any implications to plot from it, as it's probably just a humorous reference to The Austere Academy. But on the other hand, Bandit, if you consider something like The Dismal Dinner as canon, then this could indeed be considered as a work of Dr. Gustav Sebald. |
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Post by bandit on Aug 2, 2014 15:06:17 GMT -5
I don't consider The Dismal Dinner, or rather any promotional material for the movie, as canon, no.
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2014 15:20:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure about The Dismal Dinner; that, at least, was probably written by Snicket. The rest of it, though...
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Post by Hermes on Aug 2, 2014 15:21:15 GMT -5
By all means, Hermes, but as mentioned before, the cartoon is actually from 667 (scanned by Antenora in 2004). It seems to have sunk completely out of the public consciousness, though - a while ago I did a post on Sebald Code, in which I tried to list all the examples, and no one mentioned it. Well, I think it's worth asking what it would mean if it were genuinely by Sebald, even if that is open to question. As it's a long way from the topic of this thread I'll start a new one, though. |
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Aug 2, 2014 15:23:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure about The Dismal Dinner; that, at least, was probably written by Snicket. The rest of it, though... I agree that The Dismal Dinner is probably pretty official- I read it a long time ago but doesn't it imply that somebody sneaking around outside was to do with the fire? That's different to the movie, even if the text was to promote it. I'd better read that again and remind myself of its details! EDIT: I just re-read it. I was wrong- it could apply to the film. But it does seem legitimately by Snicket. So lovely to read of a time in the Baudelaire Mansion- we only get brief flashbacks of it most of the time. |
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