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Post by Skelly Craig on Mar 16, 2016 8:38:25 GMT -5
I think the first five books are close enough in length to maybe do each one in an hour. From the 6th one on there is a jump, so maybe they could do TEE and TVV in 3 episodes. Then the first season would end on the turning point of the series.
The second season might be then a bit harder to distribute, though. However, taking Dante's book length thread as a guide, they could do THH and TCC in an episode each, TSS in 2 (second to longest book in the series), TGG in one, TPP (longest) in 2, and The End in 1 ep. Of course, only if they feel they have to stick to their 8-eps-per-season plan; otherwise they could also make season 2 have a couple more episodes.
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Post by meinhard1 on Apr 11, 2016 0:36:02 GMT -5
Maybe not a pleasant idea, but some of the earlier, more episodic books could be completely skipped if writing necessitated. The Misrable Mill is great and all, but has only the most minute connections to the overarching plot.
I hope that it's not just a strict one book per episode; hoping the series feels like it's own thing, new characters and all.
In my opinion books 5 and 7 each have fantastic end-season cliffhangers.
While book 1 is obviously quite short, it could easily be extended to establish the characters, themes, and setting before the series ships off to tour its eclectic, eccentric locations.
Edit: Repeating myself: Gothjc Archies music would go a long way for me, in terms of making the series feel authentic. Have them performing at the cafe where Snicket hides backstage, typing. This would also make for a Handler cameo and his goofy, expressive accordion playing.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Apr 11, 2016 1:06:50 GMT -5
I do want to point out that while we basically have the hour long thing confirmed, we don't have the 8-eps thing confirmed from any reliable source!
Out of curiosity, I went and checked other Netflix originals for the lengths of their seasons. Interestingly--
House of Cards--4 seasons, all 13 eps, all an hour Wet Hot American Summer--1 season, 8 eps, 30 minutes each Arrested Development--Season 4 for Netflix, 15 episodes, various lengths, 30ish though Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt--2 seasons, 13 episodes in season one, 30ish minutes
SO. I think we have a precedent for a 13 episode season.
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Apr 11, 2016 9:59:48 GMT -5
Maybe not a pleasant idea, but some of the earlier, more episodic books could be completely skipped if writing necessitated. The Misrable Mill is great and all, but has only the most minute connections to the overarching plot. I'm pretty sure L S is not going to allow them to skip books. It's pretty probable they are not going to give the same importance/lenght to all of them; as you said, TMM may be shorter than TWW or TAA because of each book's content and relevance to the main plot.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Apr 11, 2016 12:37:31 GMT -5
Maybe not a pleasant idea, but some of the earlier, more episodic books could be completely skipped if writing necessitated. The Misrable Mill is great and all, but has only the most minute connections to the overarching plot. I'm pretty sure L S is not going to allow them to skip books. It's pretty probable they are not going to give the same importance/lenght to all of them; as you said, TMM may be shorter than TWW or TAA because of each book's content and relevance to the main plot. Yeah, I certainly wouldn't mind TMM being condensed down. I can see it and TAA being in one episode, with TAA's plot being split over two episodes. Have we considered that, yet, actually? Plots being split across episodes? While I'd love if they did an ep a book, since they're just telling the Baudelaires' story, I imagine they could get away with it.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Apr 12, 2016 1:21:31 GMT -5
I thought about the content of The Miserable Mill recently! Perhaps with the knowledge of upcoming story features, they'll embellish TMM to give it more relevance. They already seem to have done that to Polly Poe in replacing her with Eleanora.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 12, 2016 7:06:22 GMT -5
I think shortening TMM would not be a good idea at all - it is rather thin as it stands, and making it thinner would leave people wondering what the point was. Filling it out more, as Pevalwen suggests, would be better. Though it may be that the other episodes will have to be trimmed a bit, in which case TMM could just be done as it stands, and would then fit the format quite well.
Although it's true that the plot of TMM is a bit repetitive, I think there has to be a certain amount of repetitiveness to get the right effect - 'Oh dear, the same thing keeps happening over and over again!' - before more variations can begin. It's also thematically important because it includes Klaus's separation from his siblings (Violet's being in THH, Sunny's in TSS).
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Post by Agathological on Apr 12, 2016 12:51:17 GMT -5
Hopefully they will expand on Dr. Orwell; her relationship with Olaf and V.F.D.
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Post by gliquey on Apr 12, 2016 15:19:26 GMT -5
It's also thematically important because it includes Klaus's separation from his siblings (Violet's being in THH, Sunny's in TSS). That's a very interesting idea. I've never thought of that before, but that's actually very neat when you think about it. Another more boring reason TMM is necessary is because it features Sir, Charles and Phil, all of whom later reappear. Now, Phil's role in TGG is perhaps expendable, but Sir and Charles are needed for TPP. There are so many interesting ways Netflix could utilise the parallelism in the three chapters with the children going about as concierges and Sir and Charles are the guests Klaus attends to. I have never understood people's dislike of TMM and while I will concede that it's a little repetitive, that never bored me while reading it and I don't see why it would bore me while watching it either. The only bit I think could be improved is the characterisation of Dr. Orwell - so if they fleshed the story out a bit more and gave her a more prominent role, I would be delighted.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Apr 12, 2016 15:52:14 GMT -5
It's also thematically important because it includes Klaus's separation from his siblings (Violet's being in THH, Sunny's in TSS). That's a very interesting idea. I've never thought of that before, but that's actually very neat when you think about it. Another more boring reason TMM is necessary is because it features Sir, Charles and Phil, all of whom later reappear. Now, Phil's role in TGG is perhaps expendable, but Sir and Charles are needed for TPP. There are so many interesting ways Netflix could utilise the parallelism in the three chapters with the children going about as concierges and Sir and Charles are the guests Klaus attends to. I think they could work that out, though. There's a lot of characters in the series, and I think it could work if they found some excuse to have him listen in on somebody else, or maybe come across another part altogether of the whole mystery. I don't think they should, though, as I agree that TMM does have a certain significance to the series. As you say, I think they should go the opposite way, and rather than removing TMM characters, flesh out the ones are. I have never understood people's dislike of TMM and while I will concede that it's a little repetitive, that never bored me while reading it and I don't see why it would bore me while watching it either. TMM is also my least favourite of the series, but I still really like it. My not liking it as much as the others is not so much due to the repetition as to the fact that I'm really having trouble visualising what Klaus is supposed to be doing with the gum and his invention during the climax. I'm looking forward to see how Dr. Orwell's office will look. In the book, I believe it's described as looking like Olaf's tattoo, but of course that was written before the tattoo was supposed to be an insignia. If they try to make a building resemble the symbol they've gone with for the series, I can only see that getting at least a little awkward; that's one of the reasons I think a mix of different eye symbols, like in the fake trailer, would be a pretty good solution. Where the insignia eye doesn't work, they could just use a different one and still keep the association to VFD intact.
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