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Post by B. on Dec 11, 2015 9:28:55 GMT -5
I really hope they have a voice over with the Beatrice dedication before the episodes
I also really hope they do the editor letters, like just having the editor going to the grocery store at the end of the show and collecting the manuscripts/screenplays and such
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Post by gliquey on Dec 11, 2015 10:59:44 GMT -5
I really hope they have a voice over with the Beatrice dedication before the episodes I also really hope they do the editor letters, like just having the editor going to the grocery store at the end of the show and collecting the manuscripts/screenplays and such I doubt they will do this but it would be amazing if they did. |
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 11, 2015 11:20:14 GMT -5
I think it's feasible and yes, a great idea. Instead of having Lemony Snicket himself appear in the frame story, we could have The Editor as a character collecting LS's manuscripts. Unlike with Snicket, we could actually see the Editor's face, and Lemony Snicket remains as mysterious as ever because we'd only hear his narrating voice. Although one could also tease almost-appearances of LS during the Editor's frame story (like a far-away figure dropping off a parcel or something). I dig it.
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Post by Dante on Dec 11, 2015 12:04:47 GMT -5
Alternatively you could just have a snippet of Lemony sitting in the next episode's location, parcelling up various pieces of evidence from that area. Bottle of Lachrymose Leeches, Anxious Clown menu, big manuscript labelled The Wide Window - it would get the same sort of point across. I do think that any kind of "next time" preview has to be more amusing and more playful with its form than it would be for any other TV show.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Dec 11, 2015 18:53:08 GMT -5
Perhaps they could take the overall setting, characters and rough backstory of the books, but add a few more specific settings in between those of the books, opening up the possibility for whole new chapters that won't be too predictable for those who've read the books. I'm on the edge about that idea myself, what do you think?
On another note, I'm seeing a bunch of posts on tumblr celebrating the Baudelaire auditions online, mainly because they don't specify race, and the actors' ages are actually similar to the characters'. These are both commendable things indeed, but I think it's too early to celebrate. Nobody on the cast has actually been revealed yet, and we don't know the casting director's parameters for judging the submissions, nor has it been explicitly stated anywhere that they actually intend to cast someone who submits their audition through the website. I'm not saying we won't see all these wonderful things happening, I'm just saying it's not yet definite that we will.
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Post by suda21 on Dec 11, 2015 19:31:36 GMT -5
I think it would be neat instead of a "what happens next week" the production team has hints in the last few seconds of the episode. Like in the illustrations on how the last illustration was a hint of what the next book major theme would be about. Though the problem with having a "next time on ASOUE" section for Netflix is that Netflix releases all of the episodes all at once so you normally don't have to wait week to week for what is next it just happens. Maybe at the end of the season or the start of what happened last episode then the intro rolls and the story starts.
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Post by Dante on Dec 12, 2015 4:38:22 GMT -5
Perhaps they could take the overall setting, characters and rough backstory of the books, but add a few more specific settings in between those of the books, opening up the possibility for whole new chapters that won't be too predictable for those who've read the books. I'm on the edge about that idea myself, what do you think? You're talking about original interstitial stories in-between adaptations of the volumes we know? To me, that would undermine the strong motif of the number thirteen that the series has. I'd be more than happy with them bringing forward elements of the backstory to become more prominent, and even tweaking a few things to be less predictable, but no Book the Second-and-a-Half for me, please. It's not like other adaptations don't have the same problem. The producers casting for children of the right age is definitely important, but I agree that it seems improbable that Violet and Klaus, and indeed the four main characters more broadly, will be bucking any conventions - not unless the producers are really wowed. But I think and hope that there'll be more diversity among just about any other character, as that would fit with the universality, the non-specificity of time and space, that is implied in the series. I think it would be neat instead of a "what happens next week" the production team has hints in the last few seconds of the episode. Like in the illustrations on how the last illustration was a hint of what the next book major theme would be about. Though the problem with having a "next time on ASOUE" section for Netflix is that Netflix releases all of the episodes all at once so you normally don't have to wait week to week for what is next it just happens. Maybe at the end of the season or the start of what happened last episode then the intro rolls and the story starts. Do other Netflix shows have a "next time" feature? Even if they release all the episodes at once, it would still be natural for people to watch them episodically and in sequence rather than cutting between random slices of a series, and they have to stop for breaks sometimes. If nothing else, the books themselves have a very strong "next book on ASoUE" element, and I hope that they find some way to adapt that. |
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Post by gliquey on Dec 12, 2015 10:31:27 GMT -5
I've not seen any Netflix originals but I think it would be very nice and still work well if they had a scene at the end that hinted at the next book/episode* rather than an overt "Next Time on A Series of Unfortunate Events" montage. I think you're right, Dante, that the books do have a very strong "next book" theme, but it's still integrated in as part of the novel itself (rather than just the "Read on for the first chapter of the next installment" things) and I like that. The letter and the final illustration could serve as an inspiration for some sort of allusion forwards in the Netflix adaptation, or they could try something new.
*If there's more than one episode per book, I think I'd prefer it if they only had the scene at the end of each book storyline. If they're mixing books up like the movie did, then I have no idea.
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Post by Strangely on Dec 12, 2015 12:11:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't quite see the open auditions as that big of a deal. The age thing in particular doesn't really matter to me. For the movie they went with actors that were pretty close in age to the characters, so I expected them to do the same for this. I wouldn't have expected them to specify race either, I recall that internationally the covers in various cultures have generally depicted the Baudelaire's as the ethnicity of that region, so I expected from the get go they'd leave that door wide open in the casting process. After all the books have international appeal and acclaim, there's no reason to limit that.
I don't envy whoever has to cast this though, ultimately they are casting siblings, so casting three children who have a good level of talent and look at least somewhat similar can be a challenge. Looking back at the movie we were pretty fortunate in that case, they managed to find a good combination of talent and physical resemblance, it was almost uncanny how similar Emily Browning and Liam Aiken looked. I often see people referring to them as twins and I can see why. Though having open auditions does definitely give them more options to find the right combination of kids.
Just the same I don't expect anything Earth shattering to come from these open auditions. At the end of the day they'll cast based on talent, which could ultimately end up meaning hiring someone who already has experience. Still it's something fun and exciting for the fans to do. It's a great PR move.
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Post by suda21 on Dec 12, 2015 12:50:53 GMT -5
Dante most of the Netflix series don't have a "Next Time" but both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have recaps of what happened last episode. Though this could change because totally different style and series. Even if they don't like you said and I agree that alot of the dialouge would be recaps because retelling things happens alot in the series. I would not be surpised though with easter eggs and foreshadowing everwhere to even secret messages. Kinda of like what Gravity Falls did with it's show every episode had codes that to break them you could get the cipher in the episode or though fan speculation or later on in the series.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 12, 2015 12:59:04 GMT -5
Yes, Gravity Falls has some nice hidden mysteries and clever online marketing going on that Netflix could use as inspiration.
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Post by Obscure Orestes on Dec 13, 2015 5:26:03 GMT -5
im worried about the cast the adaption etc.
completely worried.
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Post by Dante on Dec 13, 2015 5:43:52 GMT -5
Dante most of the Netflix series don't have a "Next Time" but both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have recaps of what happened last episode. Though this could change because totally different style and series. Even if they don't like you said and I agree that alot of the dialouge would be recaps because retelling things happens alot in the series. I would not be surpised though with easter eggs and foreshadowing everwhere to even secret messages. Kinda of like what Gravity Falls did with it's show every episode had codes that to break them you could get the cipher in the episode or though fan speculation or later on in the series. Thank you for the information on Netflix shows. It's true that, as the series goes on, the first chapter of each book is increasingly dedicated to recapping what has come before, so they could certainly integrate that, although it wouldn't exactly be my first choice of material. Yes, Gravity Falls has some nice hidden mysteries and clever online marketing going on that Netflix could use as inspiration. As if the fake, community-constructed ARG built up around the unofficial teaser wasn't enough! I fear how busy they could keep us if they go all-out with the sort of ARG marketing I've seen other works get. im worried about the cast the adaption etc. completely worried. That's your right and entitlement. For myself, I'm trying not to get too invested in the quality of the adaptation; I'm interested in how they'll do things, but I won't cry a river if it doesn't turn out exactly how I want it to. |
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Post by Obscure Orestes on Dec 13, 2015 6:04:13 GMT -5
Dante most of the Netflix series don't have a "Next Time" but both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have recaps of what happened last episode. Though this could change because totally different style and series. Even if they don't like you said and I agree that alot of the dialouge would be recaps because retelling things happens alot in the series. I would not be surpised though with easter eggs and foreshadowing everwhere to even secret messages. Kinda of like what Gravity Falls did with it's show every episode had codes that to break them you could get the cipher in the episode or though fan speculation or later on in the series. Thank you for the information on Netflix shows. It's true that, as the series goes on, the first chapter of each book is increasingly dedicated to recapping what has come before, so they could certainly integrate that, although it wouldn't exactly be my first choice of material. Yes, Gravity Falls has some nice hidden mysteries and clever online marketing going on that Netflix could use as inspiration. As if the fake, community-constructed ARG built up around the unofficial teaser wasn't enough! I fear how busy they could keep us if they go all-out with the sort of ARG marketing I've seen other works get. im worried about the cast the adaption etc. completely worried. That's your right and entitlement. For myself, I'm trying not to get too invested in the quality of the adaptation; I'm interested in how they'll do things, but I won't cry a river if it doesn't turn out exactly how I want it to. Dante, of course. Movies/series adaptions are never like what we want to be. but im worried bc, they have a second change to make give at this series A GOOD ADAPTION, but the same happened with cassandra clare's TMI. movie was...... hmmm good but..... anyway if you have see it you understand, and after two years PUF! they said they want to make it a tv show. and i was so happy bc this books had a second change but when i saw the trailer i was like: ''w h a t t h e f u c k'' so you know, i do want to be the same thing with asoue. |
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Post by B. on Dec 13, 2015 10:44:18 GMT -5
I won't cry a river if it doesn't turn out exactly how I want it to. That's a shame, because I'd find that pretty satisfying. |
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