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Post by theplague on Dec 15, 2016 23:34:38 GMT -5
I just had a thought. In the Lucky Smells photograph, Dr. Orwell is standing next to Uncle Monty. What is they were friends or had some kind of connection with each other? That would explain why she would be throwing darts at Olaf's picture, but then why would she be helping him and never mind that doesn't make sense.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Dec 15, 2016 23:42:01 GMT -5
I just had a thought. In the Lucky Smells photograph, Dr. Orwell is standing next to Uncle Monty. What is they were friends or had some kind of connection with each other? That would explain why she would be throwing darts at Olaf's picture, but then why would she be helping him and never mind that doesn't make sense. Well, the prevailing theory is that she doesn't know Shirley is Olaf, and she has fallen for Olaf's disguise as much as the other adults did. Perhaps she's a not particularly noble person on the noble side of the schism? |
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Post by Dante on Dec 16, 2016 3:37:03 GMT -5
That would be an interesting change to the books, in which she knows exactly who Shirley is and is working to get a share of the Baudelaire fortune. The later implication that she was probably a lapsed volunteer helped to provide a connection that was otherwise inexplicable. If she doesn't know who Shirley is and isn't a fan of Olaf, then what motive does she have to effectively brainwash a child into a puppet? And since there's no way she's not going to be written as a member of V.F.D. in the Netflix series, then why doesn't she recognise Olaf? I would suggest instead that Dr. Orwell is something like Olivia; working with Olaf in the past hasn't exactly been as good for her as he had promised, but when he comes crawling back with another money-making scheme, her eyes light up with dollar signs. In that light, maybe she's the one who forced him into a particularly ridiculous disguise and effectively subservient position.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Dec 16, 2016 8:48:29 GMT -5
Updated main post. Sorry for the delay!
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Post by countadrian on Dec 16, 2016 12:25:35 GMT -5
Guys, I'm kind of anxious Netflix still hasn't given the green light for season 2. The reactions of the trailers haven't been really great. They haven't been necessarily "bad" but damn it... this neeeeeds to be a hit. I just read Netflix cancelled Marco Polo after 150 M loss. They are being really careful about big budgets, which is the case for this show. Of course, regular people (who've only seen the movie and don't have a clue it's based on books) miss Jim Carrey and have a lot of affection for the movie... I hope, however, that it won't stop them from watching the show and discover what the series is really about.
I think we are all eager to get a second season covering books we still haven't seen on the big screen. At least that's my first reason to look upon this show.
We need, as fans, to help this series be a hit... talk, post, tweet a lot about it. Any ideas?
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Post by Mr. Dent on Dec 16, 2016 12:31:45 GMT -5
Guys, I'm kind of anxious Netflix still hasn't given the green light for season 2. The reactions of the trailers haven't been really great. They haven't been necessarily "bad" but damn it... this neeeeeds to be a hit. I just read Netflix cancelled Marco Polo after 150 M loss. They are being really careful about big budgets, which is the case for this show. Of course, regular people (who've only seen the movie and don't have a clue it's based on books) miss Jim Carrey and have a lot of affection for the movie... I hope, however, that it won't stop them from watching the show and discover what the series is really about. I think we are all eager to get a second season covering books we still haven't seen on the big screen. At least that's my first reason to look upon this show. We need, as fans, to help this series be a hit... talk, post, tweet a lot about it. Any ideas? Don't think there's any reason to worry. The trailers reached a huge audience, and the people who didn't like it are actually just a vocal minority- Out of more than 2 Million views, only a thousand people disliked the first trailer. That's a pretty minimal amount. That's, what, 1 person in every 2 thousand people who've seen it dislike it? I don't think it's much to worry about. You should also feel at ease, knowing that the entire second season has already been written and implied to have been cast. |
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Dec 16, 2016 13:26:03 GMT -5
Guys, I'm kind of anxious Netflix still hasn't given the green light for season 2. The reactions of the trailers haven't been really great. They haven't been necessarily "bad" but damn it... this neeeeeds to be a hit. I just read Netflix cancelled Marco Polo after 150 M loss. They are being really careful about big budgets, which is the case for this show. Of course, regular people (who've only seen the movie and don't have a clue it's based on books) miss Jim Carrey and have a lot of affection for the movie... I hope, however, that it won't stop them from watching the show and discover what the series is really about. I think we are all eager to get a second season covering books we still haven't seen on the big screen. At least that's my first reason to look upon this show. We need, as fans, to help this series be a hit... talk, post, tweet a lot about it. Any ideas? Don't think there's any reason to worry. The trailers reached a huge audience, and the people who didn't like it are actually just a vocal minority- Out of more than 2 Million views, only a thousand people disliked the first trailer. That's a pretty minimal amount. That's, what, 1 person in every 2 thousand people who've seen it dislike it? I don't think it's much to worry about. You should also feel at ease, knowing that the entire second season has already been written and implied to have been cast. Also, the fact that they wrote season 2 is a good sign. People don't usually write whole seasons of a show just for fun. They know something, even if they haven't announced it. |
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Dec 16, 2016 16:07:21 GMT -5
Ooh, the music in that new clip is certainly not disappointing. I think the music will play an important role in the aesthetic.
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Dec 16, 2016 16:39:08 GMT -5
Also, the percentage of people who dislikes what we've seen so far because "it's not Jim Carrey" is like, what? 5% of the total? Most of us are adults now, but we have to consider that in 13 years a lot of new fans appeared and are going to appear because of the show. I'm pretty confident we'll get the three seasons.
Oh, and our presence on the Internet IS something. I've never seen a hype like this for the first season of a show, following all the actors and production members to get pictures or information about it.
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Post by gliquey on Dec 16, 2016 16:43:32 GMT -5
Guys, I'm kind of anxious Netflix still hasn't given the green light for season 2. The reactions of the trailers haven't been really great. They haven't been necessarily "bad" but damn it... this neeeeeds to be a hit. I just read Netflix cancelled Marco Polo after 150 M loss. They are being really careful about big budgets, which is the case for this show. Of course, regular people (who've only seen the movie and don't have a clue it's based on books) miss Jim Carrey and have a lot of affection for the movie... I hope, however, that it won't stop them from watching the show and discover what the series is really about. I think we are all eager to get a second season covering books we still haven't seen on the big screen. At least that's my first reason to look upon this show. We need, as fans, to help this series be a hit... talk, post, tweet a lot about it. Any ideas? I don't think YouTube comments are a representative sample of people's opinions - what's more important, in my opinion, is the view count, and three of the ASOUE trailers have over 2 million views, which is a lot. I think regular people, rather than regular YT commenters, won't have seen the film at all - it was 13 years ago, and lots of children will be watching this with their parents, having either read some of the books before or having never seen anything by Snicket in their life. I think very little of the target audience will remember the movie being released over a decade ago (plenty of them won't have been born). The fact it hasn't been given the green light shouldn't be a worry, at least not yet. Instead, I'm focusing on the fact that NPH said that they were planning three seasons a couple of months ago, that the second season has already been written and that despite the media frenzy when a Netflix show is canceled, Netflix renews shows much more often. |
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Post by mortinson51 on Dec 16, 2016 17:00:51 GMT -5
Every single Netflix original has gotten a second season. As with Stranger Things which was a huge success for netflix they didn't announce the second season till a couple months after. You also have to realize that the writers are writing for free. They are getting paid so it doesn't make sense for netflix to pay the writers if they aren't planning a second season. I don't think we should be worrying about this at this stage. Also there is a New Article. No new info but there is a new picture at the top of olaf sitting at his table |
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Post by Dante on Dec 16, 2016 17:11:00 GMT -5
Also there is a New Article. No new info but there is a new picture at the top of olaf sitting at his table Just how deep into V.F.D. was Olaf's family? They seem to have slapped the insignia onto everything they own. Still, there is one item conspicuous by its absence from that scene. |
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Post by Noe on Dec 16, 2016 18:11:54 GMT -5
Way too soon to be worried about season 2, if you ever really need to worry. Just look at Fuller House on Netflix, that show is so damn cheesy, ASOUE crushes it when you compare the two, yet they just released the second season of it in a year. I realize Fuller House has more of the nostalgia factor, and considering they use the same set for every episode they can crank out content faster, but I'm betting ASOUE will be something similar to Stranger Things, where I had to hear about people's praise on facebook and finally watched it two months after its release. I had no idea about it before and never saw any trailers, but I absolutely loved it. And I'm sure we're biased, being super fans on a fan forum, not many people are looking this stuff up like we are all the time.
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Post by gliquey on Dec 16, 2016 18:23:43 GMT -5
Also there is a New Article. No new info but there is a new picture at the top of olaf sitting at his table Thanks for sharing this with us. I think it is interesting how NPH says: "I didn’t want to be too good at the disguises and yet if they were not good enough, it would have either made me, Neil, look like a bad actor or would have made the other actors in the scene look so ridiculous that they couldn’t figure it out". I think in the books, it's clear that the disguises are transparent (Snicket even describes one as such) and would fool only someone with absolutely no sense - i.e. any adult in the series - but I do think what NPH is saying is fair enough. I don't mind this change from the books, and I agree with him that on screen it might look a bit weird if Olaf's disguises and acting was extremely terrible and no characters but the Baudelaires picked up on it. |
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Post by lorelai on Dec 16, 2016 19:12:59 GMT -5
I agree. There's something about bringing the series out of people's imaginations where you have to take how the disguises come across into a more practical light. It seems like they're going with the idea, that's certainly present in the series (Mr. Poe even says as much in TRR) that the concept is just so far fetched that adults dismiss it as the Baudelaires being upset/odd/jumping at shadows.
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