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Post by Dante on Feb 7, 2018 16:58:20 GMT -5
It's possible those hats are associated with Caligari Carnival instead. The actors might conceivably be wearing them just for fun.
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Post by Strangely on Feb 7, 2018 17:00:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't read too much into this. None of them appear to be in costume, only the hats seem to be a part of the production. They might just be playing around with props is all. And really, It wouldn't makes sense for the White Faced woman to be bell hops either. Too, props are created in advance, so they might not even be filming TPP yet.
I could potentially see them returning in TPP to testify against Olaf.
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Post by mortinson51 on Feb 7, 2018 17:03:46 GMT -5
In theory Duncan/Quigley shouldn't be there either. I feel like we will see what happened to the triplets in the show instead of them just vanishing. You could still have the white face woman leave in TSS around the same time Quigley gets swept away. You then could have the Woman rescue him from the river and team up together for the good side of VFD.
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Post by Strangely on Feb 7, 2018 17:09:03 GMT -5
In theory Duncan/Quigley shouldn't be there either. I feel like we will see what happened to the triplets in the show instead of them just vanishing. You could still have the white face woman leave in TSS around the same time Quigley gets swept away. You then could have the Woman rescue him from the river and team up together for the good side of VFD. I could see that, that would actually be kind of epic.
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Post by mizbizsav on Feb 7, 2018 18:57:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't read too much into this. None of them appear to be in costume, only the hats seem to be a part of the production. They might just be playing around with props is all. And really, It wouldn't makes sense for the White Faced woman to be bell hops either. Too, props are created in advance, so they might not even be filming TPP yet. I could potentially see them returning in TPP to testify against Olaf. I thought they could be filming some scenes for TPP early, given the amount of actors who return and to work around their schedules, but that makes more sense! I do wonder how they handle the henchpeople's disappearance from the story. I can't see why they would stray from the books. (Except for maybe the increased "personality" of the henchpeople in the show.) We do have reason to believe the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender could stick around longer (Matty Cardarople's last day came when the whole season wrapped), so we'll see!
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Post by meinhard1 on Feb 7, 2018 19:46:17 GMT -5
The henchpeople do have more personality, and were just more prominent in season 1. I do wonder if they’ll largley replace the original henchpersons with the ‘freaks’ like the books did.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Feb 7, 2018 22:27:19 GMT -5
Matty Cardarople certainly seems to be in it for the long haul, considering that he's been filming in Vancouver the last few weeks. Which definitely guarantees that the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender will survive until at least The Slippery Slope.
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Post by Dante on Feb 8, 2018 3:42:23 GMT -5
I think a little more filming evidence is needed before we draw any conclusions about an altered fate for the troupe. I will say, however, that I could see more of the troupe defecting with Fernald and Fiona when they steal the Carmelita - an event which I do not expect to occur off-screen in this version.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Feb 8, 2018 8:18:47 GMT -5
I think a little more filming evidence is needed before we draw any conclusions about an altered fate for the troupe. I will say, however, that I could see more of the troupe defecting with Fernald and Fiona when they steal the Carmelita - an event which I do not expect to occur off-screen in this version. I could accept that. I just don't like the idea that the henchpeople are sticking with Olaf to the end. While I prefer the way the books handled their departures, your idea would also be good, and I hope that you're right.
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Feb 8, 2018 10:11:53 GMT -5
I agree with Dante, I can see that happening. Also came here to comment that it seems like the Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender is sticking around, and I'm really happy about it because they're my favorite henchperson on the show.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Feb 8, 2018 17:06:36 GMT -5
A camera operator who works on the show posted this photo of a shotlist on instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/Be8wSLhhd5z SHOT LIST : DAY 24(Unintelligible) LIST : EPISODE 301 (Unintelligible): Series of quick images of Caravan speeding out of control. (Unintelligible)[Camera ?] pulls out of black to reveal spinning caravan wheel. (Unintelligible)[-ing] up hill, Caravan speeds to camera. (Unintelligible)[angle] up cliff as wheels almost go over cliff. (Unintelligible) (Unintelligible)(Unintelligible) looks down into the Mid-CU camera and delivers his opening (Unintelligible). (Unintelligible)(Unintelligible)(Unintelligible) from above mountains, Lemony’s POV down to (Unintelligible).
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Post by countadrian on Feb 8, 2018 21:08:09 GMT -5
Oh dear... I feel SO sorry for the fans of the show who haven’t read the books. It seems that CC ending is going to be the same one as the book. It’s gonna be such an agony to have to wait another year to know what happened to Violet and Klaus... at least, we know.
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Post by meinhard1 on Feb 9, 2018 1:27:26 GMT -5
Perhaps these fans will feel compelled to read the books after season 2. The books of this season are what really started to draw the reader into Snickets universe. That and the cliffhanger may make it difficult to just wait a year
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Post by Grace on Feb 9, 2018 7:32:12 GMT -5
I thought the henchpeople "disappearing" was kind of ham-handed in the books. At first it was happening (Orlando in book 8, bald man in book 9, white-faced women in book 10, hook-handed man in book 11), but then it wasn't, because he kept getting new henchmen like Hugo, Colette, and Kevin, Esmé who never really leaves, Carmelita, Fiona, and of course the MWBBNH and WWHBNB. So the Baudelaires vs. Olaf "mano-a-mano" (I think that was from the Unofficial FAQ if anyone remembers that) that we were anticipating as readers never happened, not even close. That also wasn't the point, as it turned out. The trial in TPP was. So the henchmen dying off was either a red herring with some inexplicable purpose, or a mistake by Handler, that is, him changing his mind toward the end. Either way, it felt forced and didn't really work for me, so I'd be fine with the henchmen not dying off on the show.
Also, the more poignant message to me from the books was that there is no shortage of bad people, or people that can be corrupted to do bad deeds, but you have to keep keeping on anyway. Which Handler decided to go with by not leaving Count Olaf without henchmen ever (until the island, of course, but that's another story).
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Post by Mr. Dent on Feb 9, 2018 10:18:52 GMT -5
I never thought the loss of the henchpeople was meant to be building up to a one on one showdown or anything like that, I always thought it was meant to demonstrate how easily replaceable they were. I always assumed it was completely intentional that Olaf's crew was so unstable and constantly changing towards the end.
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