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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Jun 8, 2018 22:06:16 GMT -5
How will the actors for Bertrand and Beatrice be the new people from the photograph? Can Netflix edit content from older seasons? Netflix could (and indeed has on at least one occasion) allow one of their shows to go back and re-edit footage from a previous season. But considering how minor this edit would be, they would likely not feel that it justifies the rather large expense of digitally inserting the new actors into the old episodes. Anyway, the show itself has already somewhat taken care of it since in Season 2 the photo has strategically faded right over B&B's faces. :Edit: And then subsequently been covered with dried fungus from the roof of the Orphan Shack.
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Post by Strangely on Jun 8, 2018 22:07:17 GMT -5
How will the actors for Bertrand and Beatrice be the new people from the photograph? Can Netflix edit content from older seasons? Yes, they can. The photo we see in the first season isn't even the real photo used during filming, it was added in post production. At any point Netflix can go back and change their content. Given how rarely the photo is seen in fine detail it would be easy to go back and fix the few shots it appears clearly in. Perhaps this could be a contributing factor as to why we haven't gotten a disc release of the show yet (Though, it's more likely that they're just waiting to release it as the entire series given the short run).
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Jun 8, 2018 22:39:46 GMT -5
Yes, they can. The photo we see in the first season isn't even the real photo used during filming, it was added in post production. At any point Netflix can go back and change their content. Given how rarely the photo is seen in fine detail it would be easy to go back and fix the few shots it appears clearly in. Perhaps this could be a contributing factor as to why we haven't gotten a disc release of the show yet (Though, it's more likely that they're just waiting to release it as the entire series given the short run). While Netflix could indeed fix the photo, it would certainly not be easy (or cheap). When they finished post-production on season one, they likely got rid of most (if not all) of the raw footage they had shot since they had no use for it anymore. Making re-editing quite difficult. And even if they didn't delete the footage, if they wanted to re-edit the photo and add it in again, they would also have to re-do any background special effects that were in each shot of the photo. Not to say that re-editing season one is 100% impossible, just potentially a bit costly for what is, after all, a fairly minor problem. As for the show not being on home video; that's simply because Netflix doesn't like to release their shows/movies on home video too soon after they've come out. They make their money by being the only place you can see those film/tv shows, thus causing people to subscribe to them. :Edit: Strangely, When Netflix does release one of their TV shows on DVD/Bluray it tends to be at least 1-2+ years since the show came out so you're most likely correct that we'll have a home media release by the time the show ends.
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Post by Strangely on Jun 9, 2018 7:30:49 GMT -5
Actually, many studios archive footage from their productions now, especially with the advent of digital storage. In fact, some productions even store their digital VFX assets for future use.
Anyway's, they don't need the raw footage for this type of effect. It's a rather cheap effect nowadays, it was likely one of the cheapest effects in the show the first time around. Most of the time the photo is seen it appears in the foreground of the shot, so the editor would literally just be placing the revision on the top layer of the frame, none of the background effects would need redone.
In the case of adding in the new actors now, it would be even easier as the only things needing replaced would be their faces. If Netflix wanted to do it, it wouldn't be that expensive or labor intensive, especially given the few amount of times the photo appears in close up. Just a handful of shots would need altered.
Though honestly, if they were to go back and alter that photo at all, I'd give slenderman Lemony Snicket an upgrade first...
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Post by Strangely on Jun 9, 2018 13:50:45 GMT -5
They probably won't and I have no expectation that they really will, it would be nice, but that's just a dream. I'm just saying it would be pretty easy and cheap to do so if they decided to do that.
As for the covering of the faces, I will point out that the picture appears fully in TCC, so they didn't bother covering it up there.
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Post by gliquey on Jun 9, 2018 20:20:07 GMT -5
Netflix could (and indeed has on at least one occasion) allow one of their shows to go back and re-edit footage from a previous season. Just out of interest, what was this occasion? I find this quite surprising. And yeah, it doesn't seem likely to me that they'll bother to change the faces on the photo.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Jun 9, 2018 20:26:41 GMT -5
Netflix could (and indeed has on at least one occasion) allow one of their shows to go back and re-edit footage from a previous season. Just out of interest, what was this occasion? I find this quite surprising. And yeah, it doesn't seem likely to me that they'll bother to change the faces on the photo. Last month Netflix released a re-edited version of Arrested Development's 4th season. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development_(season_4):Edit: Of course using this as an example of a re-edit might be a bit disingenuous on my part since it was not only on a totally different scale but was also technically made as a personal project by the showrunner (with him footing the bill) soon after the show was released. Netflix had no part in the actual re-editing, they just got the final version and sat on it for a couple of years, only releasing it now to drum up publicity for the show's new season.
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Post by imlarryyourwaiter on Jun 10, 2018 1:13:04 GMT -5
Just out of interest, what was this occasion? I find this quite surprising. And yeah, it doesn't seem likely to me that they'll bother to change the faces on the photo. Last month Netflix released a re-edited version of Arrested Development's 4th season. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_Development_(season_4):Edit: Of course using this as an example of a re-edit might be a bit disingenuous on my part since it was not only on a totally different scale but was also technically made as a personal project by the showrunner (with him footing the bill) soon after the show was released. Netflix had no part in the actual re-editing, they just got the final version and sat on it for a couple of years, only releasing it now to drum up publicity for the show's new season. That wasn’t changing the footage, just simply rearranging it, so it’s a little different. On a side note, with the remixed season who can see the person who plays Hector from TVV in one of the new thumbnails. Edit: Now that I think about it, they did add a little extra content.
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Post by Grace on Jun 12, 2018 10:10:32 GMT -5
Beth Grant is really exciting! She's described as a "character actress known for often playing conservatives, religious zealots, or sticklers for rules" which sounds about right. She seemed most memorable to me in Little Miss Sunshine and To Wong Foo, but she was also in Donnie Darko. Her list of credits is p impressive.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Jun 19, 2018 10:15:08 GMT -5
I found a couple of interviews a podcast conducted with Jim Dooley and Bo Welch respectively: www.awardscircuit.com/2018/06/11/circuit-breaker-interview-jim-dooley-and-bo-welch-delve-into-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/:Edit: Jim Dooley Interview (highlights): Much of what he talks about has been said in other interviews but he did let slip that Season 3 has a few more song/dance numbers than season 2. Bo Welch Interview (highlights): This interview was recorded around the time they were finishing up the Penultimate Peril episodes, in it he says he loved designing the submarines in the Grim Grotto and describes the hotel denouement lobby set as one of the biggest and beautiful sets he’s ever worked on. When he brings up the fact that he’s directing The End and that it’s only one part instead of two, he clarifies that unlike the other episodes in the show it will be longer than an hour. He then finishes by saying that an announcement of season 3’s release date should be coming soon.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Jun 19, 2018 10:45:29 GMT -5
I'm SO GLAD it will be longer than an hour! I feel a bit less worried about TE now.
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Post by imlarryyourwaiter on Jun 19, 2018 18:50:42 GMT -5
Everything about that was great news to me. I can’t wait to have a visual of Hotel D and I’m wondering what the musicals will be. Maybe the alphabet pledge or something with Olaf’s laugh, but I’m sure TPP will have a musical number. If a while ago a date was coming soon how soon do you think soon is?
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Post by veryferociousdrama on Jun 20, 2018 1:25:26 GMT -5
Anyone else think they may split Series 3 up - ending at TPP this year, and then release TE sometime next year? It'll make the finale have a bit more of an impact if it's released on its own.
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Post by Dante on Jun 20, 2018 3:13:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that; Netflix has made a point of releasing all episodes at once for each season, so to suddenly half-serialise Season 3 seems inconsistent. It's true that The End feels in many respects more like an epilogue or coda - in relation to TPP, it's almost explicitly the falling action - but the original TPP already confused some people into thinking it was secretly the finale, title notwithstanding, and I'm not sure the Netflix series would want to risk falling into that trap again.
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Post by coolcat667 on Jun 20, 2018 16:40:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure about that; Netflix has made a point of releasing all episodes at once for each season, so to suddenly half-serialise Season 3 seems inconsistent. It's true that The End feels in many respects more like an epilogue or coda - in relation to TPP, it's almost explicitly the falling action - but the original TPP already confused some people into thinking it was secretly the finale, title notwithstanding, and I'm not sure the Netflix series would want to risk falling into that trap again. Well, some people didn't know the meaning of the word penultimate, and it isn't revealed in the book IIRC. But I agree with you.
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