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Post by Strangely on Sept 24, 2018 19:42:52 GMT -5
Looking back at Fiona´s picture: she´s wearing the same cap as captain Widdershins on the painting (assuming it’s him)... more evidence of Fiona already being the captain of the Queequeg when the Baudelaires arrive and Widdershins already gone missing. Damn, it´s gonna be hard to not have a Captain Widdershins portrayal... but we´ll see how it works. I don't think that picture is evidence really. We have no context as to when that picture takes place in the story, it could just as easily be from the second half of the book when he goes missing. I can't really take the audition tapes as proof either, as we know from the past that they don't always reflect the actual shooting script. |
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Post by veryfakedonkey on Sept 24, 2018 19:44:08 GMT -5
Edit: The comment above came after I sent the first message.
The audition tapes seem to suggest it's Herman Melville.
And if (and only if this audition script means anything) when Fiona points to whatever she points to as Widdershins (which probably is the Barry Sonnenfeld picture) it could mean there is never a Captain Widdershins as I don't think Barry would play Widdershins and Ike.
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Post by takatoguil on Sept 24, 2018 19:58:12 GMT -5
It's also worth noting that Fiona being captain of the Queequeg initially does not mean that we won't get *any* Widdershins portrayal - the adaptation has already featured many scenes set in the past and is clearly on track to provide more. They may well throw us a bone by letting Widdershins be a one scene wonder in one such cutaway, giving us enough so that we can picture what a more faithful adaptation would be like while allowing them to make the plot changes they deem necessary to the actual story.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 24, 2018 21:16:35 GMT -5
Edit: The comment above came after I sent the first message. The audition tapes seem to suggest it's Herman Melville. And if (and only if this audition script means anything) when Fiona points to whatever she points to as Widdershins (which probably is the Barry Sonnenfeld picture) it could mean there is never a Captain Widdershins as I don't think Barry would play Widdershins and Ike. Barry Sonnenfeld has already 'played' multiple different characters via the portrait and photo cameos he makes in almost every episode, so I don't see why the show wouldn't continue that tradition in season 3. :Edit: If I'm being honest, the removal of Captain Widdershins (potentially) and Bruce (likely) have been the 'big' changes I've cared least about up to this point. Given the amount of added story material that's going to appear in the show's adaptation of the (already pretty dense) last few books, I'd rather they drop characters who, while entertaining, ultimately go nowhere, than have every episode feel overstuffed. I obviously can't know this for sure, but I get the impression that one of Daniel Handler's goals as the show's head writer has been to change a lot of the plot points from the book series that ended up getting dropped or retconned in subsequent volumes. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 25, 2018 18:11:05 GMT -5
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 28, 2018 17:19:24 GMT -5
I’ve been in contact with Reddit user recwat (who purchased and uploaded photos of the cast and crew book) and they’ve agreed to let me share pictures of every single page from the season 3 section. Concept Art will be labelled CA, actual set photos will be SP. First up... The Slippery Slope:  CA: Sunny cooking salmon on top of Mount Fraught.  (Counter-clockwise from top photo) SP: Mount Fraught’s summit, CA: The face of Mount Fraught, SP: another angle of Mount Fraught’s summit.  CA: Violet and Klaus hike Mount Fraught.  (Top to bottom) CA: Violet and Klaus are chased into a cave by snow gnats, CA: Interior of said cave.  (Top to bottom) CA: Violet and [Quigley?] climb up the frozen waterfall, CA: Ruins of V.F.D. headquarters.  (Column One) SP: Mr Poe and Kit Snicket make their way through the woods on Mount Fraught, SP: Olaf’s troupe look concerned, SP: Sunny trapped in a birdcage. (Column Two) SP: Olaf and Esmé, SP: The Man With A Beard But No Hair {Richard E. Grant} and the Woman with Hair But No Beard {Beth Grant}, SP: The Baudelaires and Quigley Quagmire stare up at something [green smoke?]. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 28, 2018 18:20:54 GMT -5
The Grim Grotto (Concept Art will be labelled CA, actual set photos will be SP):  CA: The Carmelita [re-designed by the show to look like a squid instead of an octopus] captures the Queequeg.  (Top to bottom) CA: Olaf calls someone from a telephone box on the shore, CA: a man [Lemony Snicket?] looks away from a burning building [Anwhistle Aquatics?].  (Top to bottom) CA: The Baudelaires stare at Fiona, CA: The Baudelaires look around the submarine, still dressed in their cold-weather clothing.  (Top to bottom) SP: The Queequeg’s library, SP: Violet, Fiona, and Klaus.  (Counter-clockwise from top photo) SP: The Queequeg’s kitchen, SP: Phil and his prosthetic leg, CA: Phil and Sunny in the kitchen.  (Top to bottom) CA: The Baudelaires in their diving suits, SP: The Baudelaires in their diving suits  (Top to bottom) CA: The Baudelaires traverse the sea floor while Lemony Snicket narrates from inside a diving bell, CA: Metal steps leading up from the floor of the Gregorian Grotto [to Anwhistle Aquatics?].  (Counter-clockwise from top photo) CA: Olaf steers the Carmelita, CA: The Baudelaires hide from Olaf inside the Carmelita, CA: Carmelita and Esmé overlook the enslaved Snow Scouts rowing the Carmelita.  (Top to bottom) CA: Olaf imbibes inside the Carmelita’s kitchen, SP: Olaf imbibes inside the Carmelita’s kitchen.  (Counter-clockwise from bottom photo) SP: Carmelita and Esmé overlook the enslaved Snow Scouts rowing the Carmelita, SP: Olaf, Esmé, and Carmelita sit at a dinner table, looking at someone/thing, SP: Olaf, Esmé, Carmelita, and Fernald in disguise at a submarine rental. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 28, 2018 19:06:34 GMT -5
The Penultimate Peril (Concept art is CA, actual photographs will be SP):  CA: The exterior of the Hotel Denouement.  (Counter-clockwise from top photo) CA: A tuxedoed Olaf stands in the lobby of the Hotel Denouement, CA: The Baudelaires at the concierge desk, SP: The lobby of the Hotel Denouement [there doesn’t seem to be anything built above the first floor, so all the subsequent levels will likely be added via CGI].  (Counter-clockwise from the top right photo) CA: Carmelita sails the Beatrice on the Hotel Denouement’s rooftop pool [which looks like it’s going to be an infinity pool in the show], SP: The staff of the Hotel Denouement in front of its entrance, the two men at the front appear to be Frank and Ernest Denouement {Max Greenfield?}, CA: Mr. Poe, Sunny, and Count Olaf inside in the hotel’s Indian restaurant, CA: Mr. Poe inside one of the hotel’s rooms.  (Counter-clockwise from bottom picture) CA: A man lies sprawled on the ornate steps of an Opera House, CA: [Count Olaf, Lemony Snicket, Kit Snicket, and Beatrice Baudelaire?] in an Opera box, CA: A group of people in uniform are stared at by the rest of the opera-goers. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 28, 2018 20:01:43 GMT -5
The End (All of this is concept art):  CA: Olaf and the Baudelaires sail the Beatrice through a storm.  (Column One) CA: Olaf-Land and it’s joyous inhabitants, CA: The Baudelaires, Olaf, and the Beatrice washed up on the coastal shelf. (Column Two) CA: The very dishevelled travellers arrive at Ishmael’s tent, CA: Olaf trapped in a birdcage.  (Column One) CA: The Baudelaires stand outside the Arboretum, CA: Exterior of a Soda Shop. (Column Two) CA: Inside the Arboretum, CA: Lemony Snicket waits inside the soda shop [for Beatrice Snicket?]. |
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Post by Dante on Sept 29, 2018 10:59:41 GMT -5
And to think I was worried about them toning down the Carmelita. It looks incredible.
I'm also assuming that the arrangement of individuals in the concept art doesn't necessarily reflect the script, but that's mainly because of a few oddities that don't quite make sense.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Sept 29, 2018 11:16:34 GMT -5
And to think I was worried about them toning down the Carmelita. It looks incredible. I'm also assuming that the arrangement of individuals in the concept art doesn't necessarily reflect the script, but that's mainly because of a few oddities that don't quite make sense. You're correct. Usually people in concpet art of places are there to show scale, not necessarily a mock up of a final shot! |
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Post by Agathological on Sept 29, 2018 12:19:48 GMT -5
No Widdershins it seems.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Sept 29, 2018 18:23:10 GMT -5
The Scottish Sun just released an interview with Daniel Handler and in it, he talks a little bit about the show: Daniel’s relationship with execs on the movie, which also starred Scots comic Billy Connolly, were strained — but so far his involvement with the Netflix series seems more positive. Although the writer, who is also a successful musician, reckons it’s still a lot more simple sticking to books. He says: “It is very difficult to work in such an expensive and collaborative medium — it is much, much easier to write a paragraph describing a lake than it is to build a lake for actors to boat around in. “But it is always interesting to see what the finished adaptation is like.” And the author says that the small-screen version is helping youngsters return to the written word. He jokes: “In the case of the Netflix adaptation, I’ve heard from a number of families who are enjoying the show and then read the books together, so I seem to have contributed to a rise in depressive households. Clearly, my work is done.” |
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Oct 2, 2018 5:45:27 GMT -5
These images all look fabulous. I'm so excited that we'll be able to see this all so soon, but also rather sad that after this ... That's it for the show. Also, I sincerely hope they haven't dropped Widdershins -- he's one of my favourite secondary/tertiary/whatever-level-he-is characters. I'm going to have to do my best to resist looking through TIHOSO when it's released in order not to spoil anything like this for myself.
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Post by deathtentaclesandpip on Oct 2, 2018 14:43:40 GMT -5
The thing is, though, I'm not sure why they'd release a book you'd have to avoid reading in order to not get spoiled for a show that hasn't come out yet.
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