Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jun 18, 2019 21:29:11 GMT -5
Since I started publishing my theories, from time to time someone comes up with this question: “Do you think Violet is Lemony’s daughter?” I seriously had not stopped to think about it until about 9 months ago. And I did not stop to think about it because Snicket Sleuth has a very well-founded theory on the subject. And I’m too egocentric to walk on paths already made by other people. But while I was investigating Beatrice’s survival, I came up against an extremely controversial hypothesis, involving not only an advanced premarital relationship, but also an extramarital relationship. A hypothesis exclusively mine, so I am free to let my mind free to work on it. I will try to write in a difficult way so that children who happen to be reading this text do not understand what I’m talking about and end up having a very bad impression about Lemony and Beatrice. The first question is: To what extent has the chastity of the Lemony and Beatrice couple been preserved before marriage? Well, I think the answer to this question lies in TBL.
LS to BB#3 - “We will have to be more careful during our evenings together. We should stay away from open windows, even if we are outdoors, and check carefully under the bed, even if no one is sleeping in it.”
Unfortunately my mind can only think of two young people spending the night together. This really supports the hypothesis that Violet may be Lemony’s daughter. This along with all of Sinicket Sleuth’s other arguments.
Oh, right … There are people who disregard this possibility just because Beatrice and Bertrand were on the island while Beatrice was pregnant with Violet. Everyone knows that the day of the decision happens annually, and so some people think that Beatrice necessarily spent a year on the island. But it is only a matter of re-reading a passage and observing that Beatrice and Bertrand spent only a few months on the island. They could have reached the island when Beatrice was already pregnant and they could leave the island with her still pregnant.
Note TE chapter 10:
“That's just what your parents told me," he said. "When I arrived here they'd been on the island a FEW MONTHS, but they'd become the colony's facilitators, and had suggested some new customs… Your parents wanted to carry all of the documents that had washed up here to Anwhistle Aquatics, … Others wanted to keep the island safe, far from the treachery of the world. By the time I arrived, some islanders wanted to mutiny, and abandon your parents on the coastal shelf." … "I walked into the middle of this story," …Some of the islanders had found weapons in the detritus, and the situation might have become violent if I hadn't convinced the colony to simply abandon your parents. We allowed them to pack a few books into a fishing boat your father had built, and in the morning they left with a few of their comrades as the coastal shelf flooded. … "You drove our parents away?" Violet asked in amazement. "They were very sad to go," Ishmael said. "Your mother was pregnant with you, Violet.”
But what about Klaus and Sunny? Well, I’ll describe here what first drew my attention to the possibility that Lemony might be Sunny’s father.
TPP chapter 1: Klaus said:
“Our parents took a taxi to the opera one evening when their car wouldn’t start.” “I remember that evening well,” Kit replied with a faint smile. “It was a performance of La Forza del Destino . Your mother was wearing a red shawl, with long feathers along the edges…. The poster," Klaus said, as his sister's voice trailed off. "I remember it, too. Mother said she purchased it during intermission, as a souvenir. She said it was the most interesting time she’d ever had at the opera, and she never wanted to forget it.” “The poster had a picture of a gun," Violet remembered, "with a trail of smoke forming the words of the title.” Sunny nodded her head. “La Forza del Destino,” she said.
So … Beatrice came home radiant, and very happy after killing one or two people. I can believe Beatrice is a killer, but I do not think she’s sadistic. Lemony would not like a sadistic woman. Beatrice may have killed Count Olaf’s parents, but this was part of a larger plan, involving even Kit Sinicket. Those murders were part of a mission of Lemony’s supporters. But either way, it’s weird that Beatrice has gotten so happy at home. This is a psychological discrepancy, which can not be disregarded. So, I can only conclude that something else happened that night for her to be so unforgettable to Beatrice. I seriously mistrust what it was.
Note this passage in TPP chapter 1-
“The Baudelaire orphans did not know what perils lay ahead of them, as they followed Kit Snicket down the lawn, but they wondered-just as I wondered, on that fateful evening long ago, AS I HURRIED OUT OF THE OPERA HOUSE BEFORE A CERTAIN WOMAN COULD SPOT ME-IF IT WAS THE FORCE OF DESTINY THAT WAS GUIDING THEIR STORY, OR SOMETHING EVEN MORE MYSTERIOUS, EVEN MORE DANGEROUS, AND EVEN MORE UNFORTUNATE.”
I believe the woman Lemony met was Beatrice. Lemony was very poetic in describing the encounter as something created by the force of destiny. And believe the result of that meeting was Sunny. “But sunny already existed during opera night.” Well, not necessarily. She may have been conceived on the night of opera, and have seen the poster at home when she was born and taken home. And the poster must have been somewhere prominent in that house, for it always reminded Beatrice of the wonderful night she had.
But what puzzles me the most is none of this. What puzzles me the most is Jacques Snicket would speak for the Baudelaire siblings on TVV Chapter 6:
"Oh, Baudelaires,“ he said, "I am relieved to see that you are alive. Your parents -"
"Your parents” what?
As much as I think, the only phrase that seems to make sense in this context is “Your parents are alive.” What else could Jacques have said about the Baudelaires’ parents so urgently? “Your parents left you a fortune” … Well they already knew that. “Your parents were murdered …” No, Beatrice survived and Jacques was investigating just that. “Your parents killed each other” … Well, I would not be so excited to tell this to their children. As much as I think, only one sentence makes sense: “Your parents are alive.”
Jacques had told this secret to Charles. Charles said the following in TPP chapter 5:
“I care about you, Sir, and I care about the Baudelaires.” If what J. S. wrote true, then their parents- “
"Their parents” what?
What could worry Charles? Something that could affect the life of the Baudelaires, of course. Something that could affect differently than they were already being affected. Is this secret something about the past of the Baudelaire siblings’ parents? I do not think so … That would not change their situation in any way. But their parents were alive, it would affect a lot! After all, the parents would be alive and they did not know that. That is worrisome.
Well, I know that Beatrice was alive at the time. (And if you do not know why I think so you need to read several of my previous texts). But I also know that at that moment Bertrand was dead. So the only way this phrase made sense was that Bertrand was not the biological father of any of the three Baudelaires.
Well, you must know that I am an advocate of the evidence that Beatrice was alive at the time. But I’m also a supporter that Bertrand was dead at the time. Jacques had already discovered that there was the possibility that only one of the Baudelaire fathers had survived the fire, indicating that he knew one of his “parents” had died. Why did he start his sentence with “Your parents”? If he wanted to speak only of the mother of the Baudelaires he would begin the sentence with “Your mother.” Was it because he had little time and was nervous? No … Jacques wrote a letter to Charles, and again Charles said something about their parents … So the phrase that Jacques really meant was, “Your parents are alive.” (Remember that it’s all a great hypothesis).
Well, when Jacques was about to say “his parents are alive,” he was talking about Beatrice and Lemony, who were alive. Look … Am I imagining this? No … Jacques was investigating not just Beatrice’s survival, but he was also investigating whether Lemony was alive.
See chapter 7 of TCC:
“My motto is ‘give people what they want.'That’s why I’m here at the carnival. I pretend to be a fortune-teller, and tell people whatever it is they want to hear. If Count Olaf or one of his henchmen steps inside and asks me where the Baudelaires are, I tell them. If Jacques Snicket or another volunteer steps inside and asks me if his brother is alive, I tell them.”
I can say that if anyone else knew about the true parenting of children, that someone was Jacques Snicket. Besides being a carnal brother to Lemony, Jacques was an excellent investigator. And he knew that Lemony was the father of the Baudelaire siblings, and so he could say that the Baudelaires’ parents were alive, even though Bertrand was dead.
But of course … A question arises involving chronology … Lemony was abroad when Beatrice was pregnant with Violet. She may have impregnated him before he left for the outside. But what about Klaus? Is there any chance that Lemony came back from abroad in time for him to be Klaus’s father? Well, the answer is also yes.
Watch the passage from TGG chapter 5:
“V.F.D. isn’t just a fire department,” the captain said, but his voice was very quiet, as if he were talking more to himself than to his crew. “Aye – it started that way. But the volunteers were interested in every such thing! I was one of the first to sign up for Voluntary Fish Domestication. That was one of the missions of Anwhistle Aquatics. Aye! I spent four long years training salmon to swim upstream and search for forest fires. That was when you were very young, Fiona, but your brother worked right alongside me. You should have seen him sneaking extra worms to his favorites! Aye! The program was a modest success! Aye! But then Café Salmonella came along, and took our entire fleet away. The Snicket siblings fought as best they could. Aye! Historians call it the Snicket Snickersnee! Aye! But as the poet wrote, 'Too many waiters turn out to be traitors.’ ”
Note that since the creation of Anwhistle Aquatics until the salmon were caught, only 4 years have passed. When Beatrice was pregnant Violet Anwhistle Aquatics already existed because while she was on the island she planned to build a tunnel to Anwhistle Aquatics. When the salmon were caught, Lemony had already returned to the mainland region because he fought along with his siblings in the Snicket Snickersnee. This makes Lemony come to the area where the Baudelaire mansion was at the time of Klaus’s conception most likely. But of course … There is yet another question … Has Lemony ever visited Beatrice at home after her marriage? And the answer is also yes. Lemony wrote something interesting in his notes in TBB the Rare Edition:
“The Baudelaire table was not used exclusively for dinner. Its surface was handy for unrolling maps, completing jigsaw puzzles, and tracing the faces of people from photographs. One thing I remember from my time at the table was that it was always necessary to use to use a coaster underneath one’s beverage so as not to leave an unsightly ring on the wood.”
That means Lemony was at Beatrice’s house … Probably he’s been there at least a few times.
What can we conclude? Lemony’s interest in the Baudelaire siblings is not only because they are the children of the woman he loved. His interest in Klaus, Sunny and Violet is because they are his biological children. And that explains a lot … Actually, I suspect Bertrand and Beatrice have never had a normal marital relationship. Bertrand was an excellent stepfather. He created and taught his stepsons as if they were his biological children. Bertrand loved his stepchildren more than Beatrice her biological children. And it’s really a shame that he died in such a tragic way.
LS to BB#3 - “We will have to be more careful during our evenings together. We should stay away from open windows, even if we are outdoors, and check carefully under the bed, even if no one is sleeping in it.”
Unfortunately my mind can only think of two young people spending the night together. This really supports the hypothesis that Violet may be Lemony’s daughter. This along with all of Sinicket Sleuth’s other arguments.
Oh, right … There are people who disregard this possibility just because Beatrice and Bertrand were on the island while Beatrice was pregnant with Violet. Everyone knows that the day of the decision happens annually, and so some people think that Beatrice necessarily spent a year on the island. But it is only a matter of re-reading a passage and observing that Beatrice and Bertrand spent only a few months on the island. They could have reached the island when Beatrice was already pregnant and they could leave the island with her still pregnant.
Note TE chapter 10:
“That's just what your parents told me," he said. "When I arrived here they'd been on the island a FEW MONTHS, but they'd become the colony's facilitators, and had suggested some new customs… Your parents wanted to carry all of the documents that had washed up here to Anwhistle Aquatics, … Others wanted to keep the island safe, far from the treachery of the world. By the time I arrived, some islanders wanted to mutiny, and abandon your parents on the coastal shelf." … "I walked into the middle of this story," …Some of the islanders had found weapons in the detritus, and the situation might have become violent if I hadn't convinced the colony to simply abandon your parents. We allowed them to pack a few books into a fishing boat your father had built, and in the morning they left with a few of their comrades as the coastal shelf flooded. … "You drove our parents away?" Violet asked in amazement. "They were very sad to go," Ishmael said. "Your mother was pregnant with you, Violet.”
But what about Klaus and Sunny? Well, I’ll describe here what first drew my attention to the possibility that Lemony might be Sunny’s father.
TPP chapter 1: Klaus said:
“Our parents took a taxi to the opera one evening when their car wouldn’t start.” “I remember that evening well,” Kit replied with a faint smile. “It was a performance of La Forza del Destino . Your mother was wearing a red shawl, with long feathers along the edges…. The poster," Klaus said, as his sister's voice trailed off. "I remember it, too. Mother said she purchased it during intermission, as a souvenir. She said it was the most interesting time she’d ever had at the opera, and she never wanted to forget it.” “The poster had a picture of a gun," Violet remembered, "with a trail of smoke forming the words of the title.” Sunny nodded her head. “La Forza del Destino,” she said.
So … Beatrice came home radiant, and very happy after killing one or two people. I can believe Beatrice is a killer, but I do not think she’s sadistic. Lemony would not like a sadistic woman. Beatrice may have killed Count Olaf’s parents, but this was part of a larger plan, involving even Kit Sinicket. Those murders were part of a mission of Lemony’s supporters. But either way, it’s weird that Beatrice has gotten so happy at home. This is a psychological discrepancy, which can not be disregarded. So, I can only conclude that something else happened that night for her to be so unforgettable to Beatrice. I seriously mistrust what it was.
Note this passage in TPP chapter 1-
“The Baudelaire orphans did not know what perils lay ahead of them, as they followed Kit Snicket down the lawn, but they wondered-just as I wondered, on that fateful evening long ago, AS I HURRIED OUT OF THE OPERA HOUSE BEFORE A CERTAIN WOMAN COULD SPOT ME-IF IT WAS THE FORCE OF DESTINY THAT WAS GUIDING THEIR STORY, OR SOMETHING EVEN MORE MYSTERIOUS, EVEN MORE DANGEROUS, AND EVEN MORE UNFORTUNATE.”
I believe the woman Lemony met was Beatrice. Lemony was very poetic in describing the encounter as something created by the force of destiny. And believe the result of that meeting was Sunny. “But sunny already existed during opera night.” Well, not necessarily. She may have been conceived on the night of opera, and have seen the poster at home when she was born and taken home. And the poster must have been somewhere prominent in that house, for it always reminded Beatrice of the wonderful night she had.
But what puzzles me the most is none of this. What puzzles me the most is Jacques Snicket would speak for the Baudelaire siblings on TVV Chapter 6:
"Oh, Baudelaires,“ he said, "I am relieved to see that you are alive. Your parents -"
"Your parents” what?
As much as I think, the only phrase that seems to make sense in this context is “Your parents are alive.” What else could Jacques have said about the Baudelaires’ parents so urgently? “Your parents left you a fortune” … Well they already knew that. “Your parents were murdered …” No, Beatrice survived and Jacques was investigating just that. “Your parents killed each other” … Well, I would not be so excited to tell this to their children. As much as I think, only one sentence makes sense: “Your parents are alive.”
Jacques had told this secret to Charles. Charles said the following in TPP chapter 5:
“I care about you, Sir, and I care about the Baudelaires.” If what J. S. wrote true, then their parents- “
"Their parents” what?
What could worry Charles? Something that could affect the life of the Baudelaires, of course. Something that could affect differently than they were already being affected. Is this secret something about the past of the Baudelaire siblings’ parents? I do not think so … That would not change their situation in any way. But their parents were alive, it would affect a lot! After all, the parents would be alive and they did not know that. That is worrisome.
Well, I know that Beatrice was alive at the time. (And if you do not know why I think so you need to read several of my previous texts). But I also know that at that moment Bertrand was dead. So the only way this phrase made sense was that Bertrand was not the biological father of any of the three Baudelaires.
Well, you must know that I am an advocate of the evidence that Beatrice was alive at the time. But I’m also a supporter that Bertrand was dead at the time. Jacques had already discovered that there was the possibility that only one of the Baudelaire fathers had survived the fire, indicating that he knew one of his “parents” had died. Why did he start his sentence with “Your parents”? If he wanted to speak only of the mother of the Baudelaires he would begin the sentence with “Your mother.” Was it because he had little time and was nervous? No … Jacques wrote a letter to Charles, and again Charles said something about their parents … So the phrase that Jacques really meant was, “Your parents are alive.” (Remember that it’s all a great hypothesis).
Well, when Jacques was about to say “his parents are alive,” he was talking about Beatrice and Lemony, who were alive. Look … Am I imagining this? No … Jacques was investigating not just Beatrice’s survival, but he was also investigating whether Lemony was alive.
See chapter 7 of TCC:
“My motto is ‘give people what they want.'That’s why I’m here at the carnival. I pretend to be a fortune-teller, and tell people whatever it is they want to hear. If Count Olaf or one of his henchmen steps inside and asks me where the Baudelaires are, I tell them. If Jacques Snicket or another volunteer steps inside and asks me if his brother is alive, I tell them.”
I can say that if anyone else knew about the true parenting of children, that someone was Jacques Snicket. Besides being a carnal brother to Lemony, Jacques was an excellent investigator. And he knew that Lemony was the father of the Baudelaire siblings, and so he could say that the Baudelaires’ parents were alive, even though Bertrand was dead.
But of course … A question arises involving chronology … Lemony was abroad when Beatrice was pregnant with Violet. She may have impregnated him before he left for the outside. But what about Klaus? Is there any chance that Lemony came back from abroad in time for him to be Klaus’s father? Well, the answer is also yes.
Watch the passage from TGG chapter 5:
“V.F.D. isn’t just a fire department,” the captain said, but his voice was very quiet, as if he were talking more to himself than to his crew. “Aye – it started that way. But the volunteers were interested in every such thing! I was one of the first to sign up for Voluntary Fish Domestication. That was one of the missions of Anwhistle Aquatics. Aye! I spent four long years training salmon to swim upstream and search for forest fires. That was when you were very young, Fiona, but your brother worked right alongside me. You should have seen him sneaking extra worms to his favorites! Aye! The program was a modest success! Aye! But then Café Salmonella came along, and took our entire fleet away. The Snicket siblings fought as best they could. Aye! Historians call it the Snicket Snickersnee! Aye! But as the poet wrote, 'Too many waiters turn out to be traitors.’ ”
Note that since the creation of Anwhistle Aquatics until the salmon were caught, only 4 years have passed. When Beatrice was pregnant Violet Anwhistle Aquatics already existed because while she was on the island she planned to build a tunnel to Anwhistle Aquatics. When the salmon were caught, Lemony had already returned to the mainland region because he fought along with his siblings in the Snicket Snickersnee. This makes Lemony come to the area where the Baudelaire mansion was at the time of Klaus’s conception most likely. But of course … There is yet another question … Has Lemony ever visited Beatrice at home after her marriage? And the answer is also yes. Lemony wrote something interesting in his notes in TBB the Rare Edition:
“The Baudelaire table was not used exclusively for dinner. Its surface was handy for unrolling maps, completing jigsaw puzzles, and tracing the faces of people from photographs. One thing I remember from my time at the table was that it was always necessary to use to use a coaster underneath one’s beverage so as not to leave an unsightly ring on the wood.”
That means Lemony was at Beatrice’s house … Probably he’s been there at least a few times.
What can we conclude? Lemony’s interest in the Baudelaire siblings is not only because they are the children of the woman he loved. His interest in Klaus, Sunny and Violet is because they are his biological children. And that explains a lot … Actually, I suspect Bertrand and Beatrice have never had a normal marital relationship. Bertrand was an excellent stepfather. He created and taught his stepsons as if they were his biological children. Bertrand loved his stepchildren more than Beatrice her biological children. And it’s really a shame that he died in such a tragic way.
