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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Aug 27, 2019 4:20:05 GMT -5
It’s never even crossed my mind that these scenes might NOT be ‘real’. I think sometimes we just have to remember that the world of ASOUE is rather bizarre in certain aspects, and Sunny’s teeth are just four of those aspects.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Aug 27, 2019 6:43:44 GMT -5
She is right. I can guarantee with 99.9% certainty that Sunny Baudelaire's fight-related events and her climbing using her teeth are real in the fictional universe of ASOUE. Don't get me wrong, I am one of the people who most advocates the idea that Lemony Snicket is an unreliable narrator. Still, I strive to create theories based on textual elements. (Although some disagree with this statement). In LSTUA, (which I argue is mostly made up of uncorrupted documents), Lemony wrote something very important in a personal note.
I will quote myself in my second text to the general public in this community:
"It is a strange fact that for me to prove that Lemony is lying on purpose in some passages of his work in ASOUE, I have to first prove that he has seriously endeavored to write truths in most of his work...
I believe the good liar is not that person who lies all the time. People like that lose credibility and stop fooling anyone, even when that is necessary. Good liars speak the truth most of the time, gain the confidence of others, and choose the moments of using lies with surgical precision. Good liars deceive people for generations, and I believe that Lemony is a good liar. ...
Apparently, there are no intentional lies about Sunny, Violet and Klaus told by Lemony Snicket in the 13 books of ASOUE. Lemony claims that his work on these children is the fruit of a promise. At ATWQ we realize that Lemony is someone who gives great value to keeping his promises. In addition, in a personal note found in the UA in chapter 1, Lemony Snicket wrote:
"It makes me sad to think that my whole life, from to cradle to the grave is full of errors, but at last that will not happen to the Baudelaires."
As I explained in my previous text, the documents found in the UA were not written for the Great Public in the universe of Lemony. The passage comes from a personal note, so logically Lemony would not lie to himself. So, you can trust that the whole main story of ASOUE is true."
This phrase matches the reports Lemony Snicket wrote about his own research on the events involving Sunny, Klaus, and Violet. Lemony seems to seek physical evidence of the smallest details about the events surrounding Beatrice's three children.
Besides that, the letters to the editor were not written for Lemony's large audience, so these letters also have credibility.
Thus, if there are intentional lies in the 13 books of ASOUE they could only be found in the following excerpts:
1 - In the dedications.
2 - In the descriptions of the events involving the own Lemony Snicket and Beatrice.
3 - In the descriptions of situations that were occurring during the writing of books that did not directly involve the Baudelaire siblings.
4 - Description of events related to other minor characters that occurred at different moments of the main events narrated in the books.
Of course, just because Lemony might be lying in these snippets, that does not mean he's actually lying. I just want to point out that Daniel Handler made a point of highlighting in the UA that the story about Sunny, Klaus and Violet are true, and the result of Lemony Snicket's research, not the result of Lemony Snicket's imagination.
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Post by Foxy on Aug 28, 2019 6:42:37 GMT -5
I think some of the most amazing, hilarious things about ASOUE are when the impossible happens. Sunny sword-fighting and climbing a wall with her teeth? Incredibly plausible in the world of Snicket! She is brilliant and can do anything.
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Post by Dante on Sept 1, 2019 4:57:28 GMT -5
The physics of the ASoUE universe are very much on the cartoonish and absurdist side. It's less important that an event should be possible than that it should be interesting.
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