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Post by lsandthebooks on Sept 5, 2019 16:03:11 GMT -5
It was effortless for Olaf to kidnap the Quagmires and the Snow Scouts and hold to Sunny hostage (multiple times). Why doesn't the evil side of VFD just hold the kids for ransom, and then get as much money as they want?
It would be much less effort than burning everything down and killing people. And they would have access to the fortune money much more quickly. If they had multiple fortunes to fund them, they could probably become bigger than the noble side of VFD. Especially since the noble side would lose all their funding from giving out the ransom payments....
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 5, 2019 22:05:03 GMT -5
Kidnappings are difficult to put into practice when asking for ransom. For you need to come personally to pick up large amounts of money. There may be pitfalls at this time. The ideology of fire fights with fire, it seems to indicate that it is necessary to nip it in the bud, that is, to kill as many enemies as possible.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 6, 2019 6:49:46 GMT -5
That would maybe be smarter, but probably a lot more risky, like Jean said. I think if they were asking for a ransom, the good side would probably be able to catch them. Plus, that ransom stuff never really works out, does it? If the bad guys don't get caught, they get all the money, and they still kill the person they took captive. Then we'd have a lot of dead kids. It wouldn't make for a good children's series. Although the more I read the books and listen to everyone analyze them, the less I think it is a children's series anyway.
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Post by Dante on Sept 6, 2019 15:45:55 GMT -5
Olaf's plan does effectively become one of ransom after TVV: On THH page 175, Esmé states that "I get to choose which [Baudelaire] to keep alive in order to force Mr. Poe to give us the fortune".
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Post by vfds321s on Sept 6, 2019 22:01:07 GMT -5
Dante, I think that what the lsandthebooks is asking is, why the villains don't do that from the start. Or maybe it's just me who thinks that.
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Post by lsandthebooks on Sept 7, 2019 8:31:32 GMT -5
Dante, I think that what the lsandthebooks is asking is, why the villains don't do that from the start. Or maybe it's just me who thinks that. That's totally what I was trying to ask.
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Post by Dante on Sept 7, 2019 11:38:09 GMT -5
Well, to start with Olaf was at least trying to make the pretence of acting within the law. I'm sure it was vexatious to him to become a fugitive from justice, along with his troupe. Jean Lucio I also think correctly argues that the business of ransom is not exactly without risk, either; and having to hold baggage like the Baudelaires and other children in secure confinement also makes it harder for them to avoid the pursuit of the police or of capable volunteers. The real answer, though, is that that's not the story Daniel Handler wanted to tell.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 8, 2019 12:44:07 GMT -5
And if Olaf stays within the pretenses of the law, then he can actually use the money he steals pretty easily. If he steals the money and is wanted for kidnapping, then whenever he tries to spend the money, if the police have a BOLO on him, he will probably get caught trying to by cheap boxed wine at the liquor store.
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