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Post by lsandthebooks on Sept 12, 2019 20:19:07 GMT -5
In Book 8, Olaf sets a fire in the hospital. And then he does this:
And this:
So...why didn't he want them to die? Why did he care at all?
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 13, 2019 12:00:12 GMT -5
I think it's good that you highlighted that. Olaf is not a one-dimensional character. Fernald said very well that even Count Olaf can do good things. If he is able to do good things, he is also able not to act the worst way sometimes. Olaf wants to destroy VFD. He has nothing concrete people who are not from VFD. How many times could Olaf simply have killed Mr. Poe? Olaf almost left Aunt Josefine alive ... He said it was enough for her to be considered dead. But she missed the opportunity to survive ...
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Post by Dante on Sept 13, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -5
He is also, though, continuing to act in character, which has always been important to him; and this might additionally have been a coded caution to his troupe members, who were also present in the burning hospital.
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Post by thedoctororwell on Sept 16, 2019 16:00:16 GMT -5
I think Olaf had two ulterior motives in telling the hospital staff to evacuate :
1) In reality it was his way of telling the Baudelaire orphans to evacuate without addressing them directly (which would have blown his cover). The Baudelaire orphans are still in the hospital, so they would hear the voice coming from the intercom. Olaf had to warn the Baudelaire orphans of the fire because he didn't want to endanger all three of them. In TVV, he seems to need at least one of them alive.
2) If the Baudelaire orphans were to flee from the hospital, they would have to go back to the entrance. And if everyone else evacuates, that means that a whole lot of people would congregate at the entrance roughly at the same time. Knowing in advance where the Baudelaire orphans would end up, Olaf's henchmen could capture them easily. The amount of people present would also multiply the chances of the Baudelaire orphans being spotted as they tried to escape. All in all a much better plan than telling his henchmen to search places in the hospital at random (and indeed the androgynous creature seems to have died because of this long, extensive search). What Olaf didn't anticipate is that Violet found a way to escape through a window rather than through the entrance. The Baudelaire orphans landed in a place Olaf and his allies were not observing at that particular moment, and they used this opportunity to climb into the jeep.
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Post by tonyvfd on Sept 16, 2019 17:24:28 GMT -5
I think Olaf had two ulterior motives in telling the hospital staff to evacuate : 1) In reality it was his way of telling the Baudelaire orphans to evacuate without addressing them directly (which would have blown his cover). The Baudelaire orphans are still in the hospital, so they would hear the voice coming from the intercom. Olaf had to warn the Baudelaire orphans of the fire because he didn't want to endanger all three of them. In TVV, he seems to need at least one of them alive. 2) If the Baudelaire orphans were to flee from the hospital, they would have to go back to the entrance. And if everyone else evacuates, that means that a whole lot of people would congregate at the entrance roughly at the same time. Knowing in advance where the Baudelaire orphans would end up, Olaf's henchmen could capture them easily. The amount of people present would also multiply the chances of the Baudelaire orphans being spotted as they tried to escape. All in all a much better plan than telling his henchmen to search places in the hospital at random (and indeed the androgynous creature seems to have died because of this long, extensive search). What Olaf didn't anticipate is that Violet found a way to escape through a window rather than through the entrance. The Baudelaire orphans landed in a place Olaf and his allies were not observing at that particular moment, and they used this opportunity to climb into the jeep. This sound reasonable, and in Olaf's character.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 17, 2019 9:13:50 GMT -5
I think Olaf had two ulterior motives in telling the hospital staff to evacuate : 1) In reality it was his way of telling the Baudelaire orphans to evacuate without addressing them directly (which would have blown his cover). The Baudelaire orphans are still in the hospital, so they would hear the voice coming from the intercom. Olaf had to warn the Baudelaire orphans of the fire because he didn't want to endanger all three of them. In TVV, he seems to need at least one of them alive. 2) If the Baudelaire orphans were to flee from the hospital, they would have to go back to the entrance. And if everyone else evacuates, that means that a whole lot of people would congregate at the entrance roughly at the same time. Knowing in advance where the Baudelaire orphans would end up, Olaf's henchmen could capture them easily. The amount of people present would also multiply the chances of the Baudelaire orphans being spotted as they tried to escape. All in all a much better plan than telling his henchmen to search places in the hospital at random (and indeed the androgynous creature seems to have died because of this long, extensive search). What Olaf didn't anticipate is that Violet found a way to escape through a window rather than through the entrance. The Baudelaire orphans landed in a place Olaf and his allies were not observing at that particular moment, and they used this opportunity to climb into the jeep. This explanation is consistent, makes sense and is very good! And I thought that was one of Olaf's almost good deeds ...
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Post by Foxy on Sept 17, 2019 13:13:49 GMT -5
I think one of those times he talks on the intercom, he doesn't even know it is on at first. So he just kind of starts babbling, and what comes out is what comes out. But when he tells everyone to get out, he is also using them to help him capture the Baudelaires, kind of like what thedoctororwell said. If he tells everyone where to go, then maybe he hopes one of the hospital workers, visitors, or patients will capture the Baudelaires, and they will all three be sent to prison. Then he just has to bribe a prison guard or a high court judge to let him have one of the kids...
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