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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Nov 12, 2019 21:09:21 GMT -5
At some point in the books, does any character claim that the sugar bowl belonged to Esme, or does she just say that Beatrice stole her sugar bowl? I mean, is it possible that Esme stole someone's sugar bowl and then Beatrice stole it from her? Or the sugar bowl originally belonged to Esme?
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Post by Dante on Nov 13, 2019 12:48:37 GMT -5
I would describe the case as very much unclear. The closest we get to something that looks like an acknowledgement of her ownership is from this lengthy and fairly ambiguous passage in TPP (pp. 220-221):
I think Dewey's responses here, especially the second one, are less compatible with an "Esmé stole it first" interpretation than with an "Esmé legitimately owned it" one. As always, there is the ever-present confusion between the bowl and the contents; and which Esmé is most attached to and would be most justified in being attached to.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Nov 13, 2019 13:07:59 GMT -5
Yes thanks. Dewey did not deny that the sugar bowl came from Esme. Her emphasis on finding a safe and beautiful container seems to indicate that at least the act of putting whatever was in the sugar bowl was from Esmé.
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Post by Dante on Nov 13, 2019 13:34:32 GMT -5
I would suggest that "attractively" is Esmés interpretation of the end result, and particularly, of a sugar bowl she owned and would presumably not have owned if it was not in her view attractive, in. It doesn't necessarily suggest it was a criterion.
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