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Post by Reba on Jan 24, 2020 8:19:40 GMT -5
Thank you for writing this. Today is a very important day for me, as I was finally heard by people directly linked to the adaptation of ASOUE. Thank you very much for sharing this information. I am very happy that you understood my feelings about the almost millennial history of VFD. (Actually, I think it's a really ancient story, from 300 BC or so, from the time of one of the first volunteers who said something about frogs and stones). And if you happen to have access to Daniel Handler, please tell him that I am one of the few people who realized that Beatrice survived for many years after the fire in her house, and that I realized that there is a great hiatus of many years between the publication of books 3 and 4. And that I understood why Lemony was not dressed as a bullfighter at that costume party that took place at headquarters on the Netflix series. Tell him I thought it was great. It is a pity that I was one of the few who understood the reasons. He will understand. don't make it weird jeanlucio
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jan 24, 2020 11:07:54 GMT -5
Excuse me Reba. I know you don't like this kind of behavior, especially from an adult. I will try to pretend that I know how to behave more consistent with my age. But tell us, would you like, Bear, to see an ATWQ adaptation by Netflix along the same lines as the ASOUE adaptation?
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Jan 31, 2020 1:43:36 GMT -5
Even without Joe Tracz's comments, this piece of news from September of last year (from a panel with Patrick Warburton) does suggest that Barry Sonnenfeld might not be totally willing to work with Netflix again. “One of the ways streaming services are trying to market themselves as different from one another besides content and price is technology. I have been saying for 10 years how bad CineMotion and MotionFlow are, but HDR is almost as bad."
Sonnenfeld says streaming services like Netflix do not want to release any content that is not HDR, because having HDR makes Netflix appear to be “the next level” from a technology perspective.
Sonnenfeld says in his recent popular Netflix series “A Series of Unfortunate Events”, the plan was to shoot the scenes in a “pastel, low-key, flat, unsaturated look.”
“We wanted it really gloomy… really flat,” he says. “The first season [of the show] was released in non-HDR, and then Netflix said, ‘We want to release everything in HDR.’ And in the second season, they took the same beautiful, flat, very narrow palette and we went into color timing and they said, ‘Oh, poor Barry… he shot everything on an overcast day. We will fix it.’
He says the studio expanded the bright areas by manipulating the contrast and saturated the colors during the color timing process.
“Even after spending tens of thousands of dollars in time, we could not get the highlights to appear to be over-exposed,” he says disappointingly.
Sonnenfeld says due to that HDR-driven manipulation, the second and third seasons of “A Series of Unfortunate Events” look very different. Since mobile devices and nearly every TV display made today has HDR, Netflix’s reasoning for the manipulation is that the television is going to expand the contrast anyway, so why not do it in the studio during color timing.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Jan 31, 2020 10:22:25 GMT -5
What a pity this news ... I know almost nothing (an expression that here means nothing) about the art of filming TV series and films, but I understand that respecting the wishes of a director and a showrunner is very important for that that he thinks can be portrayed the way he imagined. If you hire a director or showrunner you need to trust him. The art of the Netiflix Series was phenomenal thanks to the showrunner and his team. Without him, any adaptation of ATWQ can be seriously impaired.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Feb 1, 2020 9:40:09 GMT -5
“We wanted it really gloomy… really flat,” he says. “The first season [of the show] was released in non-HDR, and then Netflix said, ‘We want to release everything in HDR.’ And in the second season, they took the same beautiful, flat, very narrow palette and we went into color timing and they said, ‘Oh, poor Barry… he shot everything on an overcast day. We will fix it.’ My God... that's a horror scenario for any artist.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Feb 7, 2020 13:14:46 GMT -5
Ah, you know, I always thought that the first season looked a good deal better, visually speaking, than later seasons but had never been able to actually articulate why! I suppose this explains it.
Anyways, an ATWQ prequel would be a delight, but I find it unlikely. I find it unlikely, because Barry seems reticent, I find it unlikely because the novels were not as popular as ASOUE's, but mostly I find it unlikely because the child cast would be very difficult to work with. Most of the expanded VFD storylines in the show, featuring Jacquelyn & Larry and Olivia & Jacques were added because child labor laws necessitated B-Plots so that the Baudelaires could rest. Since ATWQ's cast is almost entirely children, I can't imagine they'd be able to do the same.
Although the Theodora S. Markson show sounds very amusing in it's own right.
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Post by Reba on Feb 7, 2020 16:25:03 GMT -5
get S. Epatha Merkerson to play S. Theodora Markson
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 7, 2020 20:13:32 GMT -5
This actress with some hair applications would look great.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Feb 9, 2020 3:23:55 GMT -5
While I do enjoy the Netflix ASOUE as it is quite a bit, I think that a lot of the problems it had, from not having enough time to shoot episodes to being forced to film around the actors' schedules, would've have been significantly alleviated if it had been done as an animated series.
Now of course animation does come with its own set of problems like significantly longer production times but overall, it seems like it might be a better approach for a potential Snicket project in future.
:Edit: Unless they do what the 2004 movie did of course, and basically spend almost an entire year and nearly $200 million shooting a 100 minute movie, but this is likely not entirely feasible.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 9, 2020 5:39:27 GMT -5
An animated ATWQ series would be a dream ... An animation in the style of Netflix's Carmen Sandiego ...Would it be too expensive? Would the general public watch with interest? I hope so.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Feb 10, 2020 20:10:55 GMT -5
I would like to see an ATWQ animation that emulates the style of Seth's illustrations.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Mar 6, 2020 0:29:29 GMT -5
An animated ATWQ series would be a dream ... An animation in the style of Netflix's Carmen Sandiego ...Would it be too expensive? Would the general public watch with interest? I hope so. Look at Netflix's surprisingly pretty good Green Eggs and Ham series. It has absolutely gorgeous animation and was apparently pretty expensive, and the result was a surprisingly engaging though bizarre show filled with plot twists and some heartfelt moments. So maybe an ATWQ adaptation in that style could work, but it might have to be a bit edgier or a bit darker than Green Eggs and Ham.
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Post by spunsocial on May 1, 2020 14:34:47 GMT -5
Perhaps an animation in the style of, ah, Seth? The silhouette thing could get old fast, but it may be worth it.
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Post by counto on Aug 6, 2020 1:31:55 GMT -5
If they are doing a prequel series based on ATWQ to the Netflix version, there's somethings I'd like the show to explain to the viewers.
Firstly, who's going to play a teenage version of Lemony Snicket? Patrick Warburton was in my opinion was perfect for the role. However I doubt he'll be able to portray a 13 year old very well. Unless he's also narrating his own backstory as a narrator.
Will the series dive into the more deeper lore of the Bombarding Beast aka The Great Unknown? We know in ATWQ that the BB is the primary source of conflict in the book series, way before the Sugar Bowl or the Schism. In the last episode The End, the statue of BB makes a cameo appearance and we the monster slightly itself during The Grim Grotto.
Who else will appear in the show? Many fans are probably pondering this (pondering, a word meaning thinking hard) on which ASOUE characters will make an appearance? Perhaps we'll Josephine before she met Ike. Maybe we'll see Count Olaf before he became a villain. Or maybe, just maybe we'll learn the true identities of the Man with The Beard and No Hair and the Woman with Hair and No Beard.
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Post by Be actress Beatrice on Aug 6, 2020 6:47:16 GMT -5
For more than I wanted, I now realize that ATWQ alone would not be a commercially viable product. A lot of people just didn't read ATWQ, and all the contact they have with ASOUE is with the show. They may have enjoyed the show and that is a problem for ATWQ. I'm pretty sure that watching ATWQ after the ASOUE show would be frustrating. Because what people expect from a prequel is totally different from what they have in ATWQ. However, I think it would be possible to create an original story, including some episodes in which ATWQ would take place. That would be surprising even for those who read the ATWQ books. The series however would need to be called something like VFD Tales. In addition to ATWQ, it would be interesting to adapt more material from TBL and LSTUA and also create original stories.
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