Whatever Happened to Ellington Feint?

[Optimism is my Phil-osophy]

So the theory that ATWQ takes place in a universe other than ASOUE is the one that most fits.

[FileneNGottlin]

I think Ellington's comfort with destroying libraries depends on your interpretation of the end of ?3 (however, I could be misremembering something). Regarding her interest in books being tied to her father, this isn't necessarily the only cause. Though she only checks out Caviar: Salty Jewel of the Tasty Sea for research, it still demonstrates that her first instinct was to check the library. She also seems to have a good friendship with Dashiell Qwerty, which suggests a general trust in librarians. Even if she only likes books because of the connection to her father, that might make her more respectful of books in general.

Hermes, I'm wondering about the main line of VFD. I always assumed that by ASOUE, it didn't really exist. Lemony does contact VFD members, like Gustav and Kit, and he even seems to aid in VFD plots(I've always thought it was implied that he was the volunteer at VFD headquarters who saved the sugar bowl, and that he perhaps removed it from the pond as the taxi driver), so its possible that his lack of involvement with a main line was because of a lack of a main line to begin with.

I'm pretty sure that Esme was 12-13 when she read Anna Karenina: it was part of VFD training, we know the Baudelaire parents were secretly training their children, and Klaus Baudelaire had already read it by the time he was 12. Esme says she was "about your age" when she read it, but it seems far more likely that she was talking to Klaus(or possibly Quigley), rather than Violet.

[Dante]

Feb 19, 2021 13:38:37 GMT -5 R. said:

Ellington is a human being, and I doubt that any person would just forgive and forget if someone killed their father.

There are more choices than only seeking vengeance and extending forgiveness.

[Optimism is my Phil-osophy]

In fact, I bet Eligton who poisoned Lemony.

[R.]

What the sugar bowl?!?! That is my theory as well!

[Uncle Algernon]

Feb 19, 2021 13:33:25 GMT -5 Hermes said:

We do hear of associates helping Lemony at points during the series, although he seems to be alienated from the main line of VFD, and I've speculated before now that these may be old members of the AoA.

Good point.

[counto]

Feb 20, 2021 7:11:44 GMT -5 Optimism is my Phil-osophy said:

In fact, I bet Eligton who poisoned Lemony.

Well in the Netflix version they revealed that inside the sugar bowl was sugar cubes that made you immune to the Medusiod Mycelluim. Perhaps Ellington poisoned Lemony using the fungus in his breakfast drink or food in the upcoming book. 

(Note: Yes I know that the Netflix and Book series are two different canon timelines, but it's still possible isn't it?) 

[FileneNGottlin]

I'm pretty sure that's impossible, counto: the Medusoid Mycelium is inhaled, rather than eaten(I suppose you could put it in someone's food, but they would still die by inhaling it), and perhaps too fast-acting: one hour might not give you enough time to fill a book. Lemony would also presumably be familiar enough with the Mycelium to know about the horseradish cure, which is quite easy to find, and which any volunteer would likely have on hand(assuming that Poison for Breakfast is set post-ASOUE. I think it must be, because otherwise we would already know the ending(unless Jean's multiverse theory is true, which would be a shocking twist)).

[Dante]

People who have been infected with Medusoid Mycelium are themselves infectious, which is why Sunny is kept in the diving helmet in TGG until the moment the dilution is administered. If Snicket had been infected with Medusoid Mycelium, he would know that to leave his house would endanger everyone he came in contact with. He would instead get on the phone to order an urgent delivery of horseradish, wasabi, or a similar cure to his home.

[Amber Rivers]

Feb 1, 2021 19:59:44 GMT -5 counto said:

The world of ASOUE/ATWQ is full interesting and very morally grey characters. Whether they're "noble" or not, the characters of the book series are full of both literacy and novel lore. 

One of the most under looked characters I think is Ellington Feint from ATWQ (the prequel to ASOUE). 

If you've read books (and spoilers if you haven't), Ellington was a love of 12 year old Lemony Snicket before her father Armstrong Feint aka HangFire was devoured by the Bombinating Beast. Blaming her father's death on Lemony before leaving swearing vengeance against him, she is never heard or mentioned again. 

Some people think this just because she was a minor character that she played no real role in ASOUE. 

But what if she did, what if she had a much bigger role? 


Now there are theories stating that Ellington Feint was the one responsible for starting the Baudelaire Fire (as revenge against Lemony) or that she is the Woman with Hair and No Beard. 


I personally think the first theory is more possible. I mean what better way to get revenge than take away the one thing Lemony loves most: Beatrice. An eye for an eye. 


But I want hear what you guys think and if you have any theories or headcanons on this. 


(Note this subject title is a reference to Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? if anybody's interested) 

I love Ellington Feint! I mentioned before that I believe in the theory that she is in the ASOUE universe as one of the people who are constantly chasing Lemony but now, I think she is doing other stuff parallel to the events of the original series but will eventually meet Lemony (the hows and whys I do not yet have any idea). Maybe she is able to reconnect with the old Associates team. 

Feb 20, 2021 7:11:44 GMT -5 Optimism is my Phil-osophy said:

In fact, I bet Eligton who poisoned Lemony.

I was also thinking the same thing. Grief is a funny thing because it lingers. It acts like a box inside you that whenever hearing phrases - or even names - unleashes a set of emotions so raw that you will be pushed to your limits and I think Ellington, whenever she hears the name Lemony, is reminded of that fateful night and will still want vengeance.