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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Mar 23, 2021 11:31:16 GMT -5
In the first episode of TSS in the Netflix adaptation, Kit looks at the freaks and says, "You deserve better." And soon after they are murdered. They were very nice characters and were little used. Was Kit's phrase some kind of internal joke?
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Post by Dante on Mar 24, 2021 3:38:41 GMT -5
The freaks' murder is still one of the most jarring elements of the Netflix series to me. Right up until the end of that episode I was expecting it to be a fake-out, that we'd get a cut of them and Brucie trudging down the road, "We just escaped from some terrible people," "So did I!"
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Mar 24, 2021 6:46:47 GMT -5
I know that killing characters that were dear to Olaf's original troupe instead of killing characters we just met seems like the right thing ... But if we have gone so far in the changes, how about not killing anyone?
Also, I don't think the sinister duo are serial killers. I think they are murderers who self-glorify themselves by fighting fire against fire.
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Post by Hermes on Mar 24, 2021 7:06:45 GMT -5
Well, it wouldn't be ASOUE if no one ws killed, but yes, these deaths seem strangely pointless. A fight between writers, perhaps? One might have written TCC following the book, wioth Olaf recruiting the freaks, while others, knowing the original troupe does not die, were planning the later episodes without them?
It's worth remembering the show features the original troupe much more than the books do - in the books, after TBB, the normal rule is just one henchperson per book, until they reassemble in THH, which is also the book in which they begin dying.
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Post by catastrophist on Mar 24, 2021 8:26:23 GMT -5
As one of those writers, I can say "You deserve better" was partially a nod to the freak's early exit, as well as a reminder to the audience that Kit knew and cared about them from her Madame Lulu days. The decision to keep the troupe alive meant that our Olaf scenes were getting crowded, making it harder to service every character, and we had to pare down our cast budget in order to afford our Penultimate cameos. So killing the freaks early was a practical solution, as well as a creative one: we hoped their death would establish the Duo as a more serious threat, and nudge the troupe towards their decision to leave (as it helps them realize that they, too, deserve better.)
Their death wasn't intended to be ambiguous -- I agree it does come across like a fake-out -- but their final scene has some of my favorite performances. Robbie, Bonnie, and Kevin were so fun together that it made me wish we could have kept them around for longer, or at least let them live happily ever after on that rutabaga farm. Alas, that's not how the story goes...
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Mar 24, 2021 9:58:06 GMT -5
As one of those writers, I can say "You deserve better" was partially a nod to the freak's early exit, as well as a reminder to the audience that Kit knew and cared about them from her Madame Lulu days. The decision to keep the troupe alive meant that our Olaf scenes were getting crowded, making it harder to service every character, and we had to pare down our cast budget in order to afford our Penultimate cameos. So killing the freaks early was a practical solution, as well as a creative one: we hoped their death would establish the Duo as a more serious threat, and nudge the troupe towards their decision to leave (as it helps them realize that they, too, deserve better.) Their death wasn't intended to be ambiguous -- I agree it does come across like a fake-out -- but their final scene has some of my favorite performances. Robbie, Bonnie, and Kevin were so fun together that it made me wish we could have kept them around for longer, or at least let them live happily ever after on that rutabaga farm. Alas, that's not how the story goes... Oh, thanks for explaining better. I can say that the scene itself, having Kit acting with them was very beautiful, especially because of their smile (the best smile is undoubtedly Colette's). I always wanted to know if the actor who plays Kevin is really ambidextrous. (He really looks ambidextrous while he acts).
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