Mr baudelaire might be alive please read

[sunsun]

Ersatz elevator- go to the chapter picture when they get out of the long tunnel. There is a picture of a man and a woman (presumably Mr and Mrs Baudelaire.)

Bad beginning- opening picture- the man driving the firetruck has a long moustache, like Mr.B. in the EE picture, and kind of looks like him. So, Mr.B did not die from the fire, unless he burned himself.

The daily punctilio, which is not a very reliable newspaper that tends to prevaricate, published his death.

Possibility of Mr.B being mentioned in the snicket file-
1/7 2 snicket parents, 2 quagmire parents, quigley, 2 baudelaire parents.

LSUA:
Chance of Charles baudelaire being the survivor in the snowman of zombies in the snow by gustav sebald- 50% inside the coded letter (pg 61) basically it says to montgomery mongomery to bring the three children (Violet, Klaus, and Sunny) to the place where the film takes place there is a survivor of the fire, your new assistant is not one of us, beware!

That is a pretty good chance he is alive.

If, in fact, Mrs. Baudelaire is Mr.Lemony Snicket's sister, she is probably alive, because in various books by LS he interrupts and says, "My dear sister, I am heading North to try to find you" etc. tell me what you think of my theory!

[molekid84]

im not sure if this matters, but no one has seemed to see this.

in the openin pic of BB, the hat has a '?' and no letters like CPFD... (i dunno if thats what they have in chicago but whatever,) or even VFD...

[Celinra]

The clues you gave are possible, except that in book 10, Lemony clearly says that Mr. Baudelaire is dead. Also, we find out who the survivor of the fire is, and it's not him (I won't say who it is to avoid giving spoilers).

[negativenine]

I don't have TBB here right now, but I'll have to look for the question mark when I find it. Whose hat are we talking about, by the way?
Anyway, Celinra, there's still the possibility that someone survived the Baudelaire fire, too. Especially if Mrs. Baudelaire is Lemony's sister.

[amyshomegirl88]

I agree ! I thought of pretty much the same theory! ;D.

[molekid84]

I wonder if they were the real fire department, you know? Maybe the people who investigated or whatever the Baudelaire fire weren't really the deal. Or maybe I'm just tired of shoolwork and my brain is just sparking.

[sunsun]

Yeah in 10 he does say Mr. Baudelaire is dead, but LS gives so many red herrings it is impossible to say he is telling the truth. You can't just say, "Oh, thats not true"
you have to think and research about it to prove your point. But, I can't say i am 100% right, although I think it is a pretty good theory.

[MindTreason]

In TSS he says Mr.B is dead? Possibly, he is dead and the mother is alive?

Wow, I read the first 7 books so long ago, I am re-reading them in a few days..

[sunsun]

Yeah... plus you know his red herrings....

[Celinra]

Negativenine: I never said no one survived the Baudelaire fire, I just said that the odds are less since the survivor was shown to be someone else.
Swans: I think we can trust his word. He admits when he doesn't know something (i.e. with the white-faced women and the cart), and he apparently does a lot of research, so I doubt he'd just say something without being sure. Yes, there are red herrings, but I don't think he'd say one thing only to show a completely different thing. There's a difference between misleading someone to make a twist in the story (such as the Baudelaires expecting the survivor to be a parent, then having it revealed to be someone else) and just plain lying.

[MindTreason]

Hmm interesting... But in TBBCE/TBBRE it kinda tells you that Mr.Poe had something hidden in his hat... and that the drafting table/map table in the Baudelaires house, someone was drinking wine... Without a coaster! And it said someone who was rude like that was once sitting on the only remaining bench from the garden place... and the bench is in a hotel... and that hotel could be.. Hotel donuenement (Spelling?) ... Maybe the baudelairs betrayed them in some way.. the good VFD... but they would not use fire thmselves

[DetectiveDupin]

Maybe ;D

[Celinra]

swans said:

Celinra, I'm not saying Lemony is lying to our faces for a twist in the story.. I'm saying we are not sure if anyone is dead (there is no solid proof) and we are unsure of the time of events. Lemony wrote that book long after TSS actually took place.. he might be projecting future events like they already happened in Baudelaire time. Also maybe he just read that Jacques died.. and we all know that just because you read something doesn't make it true. The article about Quigley said he was dead but he wasn't.. so maybe Lemony read that Mr. B and Jacques were dead and he doesn't have actual proof.

I disagree with two things:
1: time- I believe the phrase in the book is something like this: "the men in their life were dead...", so it seems to me that he's referring to time past, i.e. when the story takes place, meaning that even in the time of the book he's dead
2: article about Quigley- I don't think Lemony actually said at any point "Quigley is dead" (excepting when he was reviewing things gone over, but that is what the Baudelaire's learned, or thought they learned, not Lemony stating a fact), he only made reference to articles saying he was, or his siblings said he was, because that is what they thought. Lemony, who's done research after the fact, never made such a statement about Quigley as he did about Mr. Baudelaire at the end of TSS.

[nero]

!!!!!

i think mr. baudelaire is alive!!!!

and i think mrs. baudelaire is BEATRICE!!!!

1. beatrice was supposedto be married to snicket, but something was published in the daily punctilio about him so the wedding was cancelled.

2.she married another guy. >mr. baudelaire!<

3. Beatrice is dead.

4. she died in a fire. (in book five, the Beatrice triptych, hope i spelled it right)

5. she was part of the vfd

6. if i remember it right, in the 7th book, Jaques snicket told the baudelaires that their parents were part of an organization >vfd<, or maybe he just mentioned that he knew their parents.

what other proof do we have?!? quick!! ;D

[Kgirl]

Mr. Baudelaire's evidence of being in V.F.D. is that he had Vertical Flame Devices in his desk. Klaus remembered seeing them in the slippery slope.