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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 12, 2006 21:00:23 GMT -5
Thank you! I'm finishg up summarizing it in my cpb. I never before paid attention to the fact that Dewey's actually pointing to the sky when he says "Kit" right before he dies. I'm on chapter 11 about to finish up.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Feb 17, 2006 23:08:42 GMT -5
My friend is wierd. She thinks that the next book will take place in the Finite Forest, just because it's capatalized in one of Sir's sentances. Makes a whole lotta sense, doesn't it? *sarchasm*
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Post by Dante on Feb 18, 2006 4:11:28 GMT -5
That is a strange assumption to make, given that it's capitalised whenever anyone mentions it on account of it being a place name. Then again, people thought that TPP would be called The Lousy Lane for similar reasons. Which reminds me, I never did get around to gloating about that.
Edit: Unless your friend meant that it was typed in full caps? But I'm sure I'd have noticed if that had happened anywhere.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Feb 19, 2006 11:16:52 GMT -5
No. She highlited it in her copy. I told her it was just because it was the name of a place, and it was appropriate to capatalize it like that, just like you'd capatalize Lake Lachrymose. And, anyway, they're out on the sea. How would they get to the Finite Forest anyway?
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Post by Dante on Feb 19, 2006 11:23:27 GMT -5
Sir said in TPP that the Finite Forest was running out of trees, so it's probably not even much of a forest anymore. I guess that makes it more realistic, it actually running out of trees (and justifies its name).
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 19, 2006 20:34:52 GMT -5
Its name is indeed justified. Oh and here's something I kept forgetting to put in here: Frank and Ernest could both be interpreted as adjectives although the latter would be spelled 'earnest'. Is dewey an actual word? Because if it is that would complete the trio. I just thought I'd put that out there. (Curiously enough frank and earnest mean somewhat the same thing if I'm not mistaken)
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Post by Antenora on Feb 19, 2006 21:00:02 GMT -5
Frank and earnest both mean "honest" and "dependable", yes. And I"ve heard the word "dewey-eyed" to mean either weepy or naive and inexperienced, I think.
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Post by Ligeia on Feb 19, 2006 21:07:01 GMT -5
As a first name, Dewey is a derivative of David, which means "beloved." But it seems most likely that he was named for Melvil Dewey, the librarian that invented the Dewey Decimal System.
It makes a bit of sense that his names aren't connected to his siblings, since he was sort of the hidden sibling. Quigley (who was also hidden, or at least assumed to be dead) has a name that's not connected to his siblings either. And also an alliterative name, though that probably has nothing to do with it.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 19, 2006 21:33:37 GMT -5
But it does, Quigley Quagmire and Dewey Denouement are both alliterations and both unrelated to their siblings names, I'd never noticed that before...
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Post by Alice Wilde on Feb 19, 2006 21:39:40 GMT -5
Also, with that terrible sounding -ey ending.
The Baudelaires knew about Frank/Ernest and Duncan/Isadora before they knew of the their respective siblings. And you can't think of one without the other, whereas with the extra siblings, you think of them separately.
So, it's fitting that their names break the pattern.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 20, 2006 21:50:25 GMT -5
So it is, they seem to have the exact same pattern except Dewey did die and quigley didn't. *sigh*
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Post by beatriceblake on Mar 19, 2006 18:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by Antenora on Mar 19, 2006 19:07:38 GMT -5
The author sounds rather paranoid, really, though his interpretation of the political/social commentary aspects of TPP is interesting. I don't think the moral ambiguity in the series is a bad thing at all, myself.
(The political part of the article begins with: My complaint with Handler is that he has to go and get political in a very sneaky way. And not just "Rock the Vote" political. We're talking extreme-sedition political.)
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Post by s on Mar 19, 2006 19:35:52 GMT -5
"What kind of person writes a comedy about incest? Maybe the same kind of person that idolizes Charles Baudelaire." - Is that supposed to be an insult?
And wtf?
"To put it in its simplest form, Handler has drawn a nifty metaphor for 9/11 and has told the entire story from the perspective of the terrorists, i.e. the orphans."
Talk about drawing strange connections. I'm hoping this person isn't serious.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 19, 2006 20:55:36 GMT -5
This person does look a bit paranoid. I hate how he tries to force this on people like it's absolute truth, I mean he doesn't even admit that he might be errored in these wild perceptions...
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