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Post by Sora on Oct 10, 2006 3:09:15 GMT -5
I hope this is all false. Because I really wanted some serious closure here. I want to know:
1. What the sugar bowl is.
2. What VFD does and is.
3. Who Beatrice is.
4. What is the Baudelaire parents deal? Is one alive or are they both dead?
5. What do the Bauds end up doing?
6. What happens the Quagmires?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2006 7:46:17 GMT -5
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Oct 10, 2006 12:53:11 GMT -5
Ok, several people have quoted this and added information, and I've found the last two, so I'm going to put it all together.
Friday - Robinson Crusoe
Ishmael - Moby-Dick
Ariel- The Tempest
Dr. Kurtz - Conrad's "Heart of Darkness"
Mrs. Marlow - Conrad's "Heart of Darkness"
Rabbi Bligh - Probably refers to William Bligh, an officer of the British royal navy famous for a mutiny that occured on his ship HMAV Bounty while in the south seas. Making him a rabbi sounds like a Handler thing to do.
Erewhon - The name of a fictional country in a book with the same title, by Samuel Butler. According to Wikipedia: "At first glance, Erewhon appears to be a utopia, yet it soon becomes clear that this is far from the case. Yet for all the failings of Erewhon, it is also clearly not a dystopia."
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Post by edgar on Oct 10, 2006 15:42:29 GMT -5
Curse that girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ah, it hurts not to have it! IT HURTS! BANANAS! GET THAT BOOK FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, ehe, hehe, ahem. *cough cough* Sorry.
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Post by sunnygal on Oct 10, 2006 18:25:01 GMT -5
what if it's all a dream...probably not. im always spelling things backwards to see if they have any particular meaning. mayb one side of vfd is dfv because remember that hotel? and what if the sugar bowl is like..it hold something "sweet"...like not an actual sugar bowl but..ahh i dont know
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Post by Tigerclaw can drive a car :B on Oct 10, 2006 18:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2006 19:21:13 GMT -5
what if it's all a dream...probably not. im always spelling things backwards to see if they have any particular meaning. mayb one side of vfd is dfv because remember that hotel? and what if the sugar bowl is like..it hold something "sweet"...like not an actual sugar bowl but..ahh i dont know right...this is for spoilers not for theories |
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the13end
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Post by the13end on Oct 11, 2006 13:42:18 GMT -5
Yesterday I searched something on the computer, but it came up with the whole 1st chapter of The End! But I'm guessing it only stayed there for 1 day, because today, when I went back, it was the first chapter to some other book!
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the13end
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Post by the13end on Oct 11, 2006 14:42:30 GMT -5
Block out the block outs!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2006 15:01:46 GMT -5
no double posts, and look right above this thread for the 1st chapter
Edit: Kerri (the girl in the pic) said that The End had 14 chapters. 324 pages were made up of THIRTEEN chapters, and the final chapter was THIRTEEN pages. That means ONLY 337 pages.
Note this is just a rumor because she didn't answer any emails except this one so take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by superorange on Oct 11, 2006 19:48:52 GMT -5
no double posts, and look right above this thread for the 1st chapter Edit: Kerri (the girl in the pic) said that The End had 14 chapters. 324 pages were made up of THIRTEEN chapters, and the final chapter was THIRTEEN pages. That means ONLY 337 pages. Note this is just a rumor because she didn't answer any emails except this one so take it with a grain of salt. Ok, now I'm positive that this girl is just a big liar trying to get attention. The End is supposed to have almost 400 pages. |
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 11, 2006 20:18:13 GMT -5
Or maybe the girl didn't really write the email.
According to official sources, the book only has 356 pages, which is about 50 away from 400, FYI.
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Post by Brutuz on Oct 11, 2006 23:34:09 GMT -5
I think that shes lying, like 2 people on the one forum with a small number of members?
Double Account!
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Post by pullerofstrings on Oct 12, 2006 11:25:22 GMT -5
NO. WAY. Are you trying to tell me that we never learn what's in the sugar bowl, the fates of the Baudelaires' allies or what that mysterious question mark is??? MADNESS. LS would never do that unless he wanted his fans to murder him in his sleep. The book's coming out tomorrow, so I'll know then, but this is disturbing news.
I guessed that about Olaf, Kit and baby Beatrice, but seriously, that girl means to tell us that we never find out the most important secrets, which we've waited a number of books to discover? NO. We must. It's as simple as that. I don't believe her anyway; if she were telling the truth, she'd be able to tell us something we couldn't solve through simple guesswork, like, oh, how the Baudelaires manage to prove their innocence. The Beatrice Letters said Sunny appeared on the radio to discuss her recipes, but that wouldn't be possible if she remained a wanted killer. Then there's Kits' death. I don't doubt that it will happen, but it wouldn't occur until the end of the book, surely? What are the Baudelaires supposed to do for all those chapters? Sit around and discuss cooking with the pointless new characters that serve as islanders? I doubt it.
And what about the man they're supposed to meet who has a book filled with secrets about their parents? Isn't it convenient that the people who gave these spoilers left that crucial bit of info. out? What does he tell the Baudelaires? Who is he? Is he Lemony Snicket? I don't hear anybody answering... I just think it's absolute madness for someone to suggest that half the returning characters will be swallowed up by the enormous creature/machine from TGG. How is that logical?
And are these islanders even THE FFP pirates that Violet's supposed to meet in this book? Does Violet return to Briny Beach for a third time? Again, I don't hear anyone answering... Listen and listen good. There would be no point in half that stuff happening, so how could it? Daniel Handler surely doesn't wants hordes of murderers hunting him down on Friday.
BTW, has everybody forgotten that the forbidden fruit and the incredibly deadly viper are supposed to be in this book? Or maybe it's just that girl and her cohorts, who are almost certainly lying about half that stuff... OK, we'll find out tomorrow, but for now... this news is abombinable and slightly upsetting. I'm sure that most will agree with me. I'm not sorry about the rant.
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 12, 2006 14:06:38 GMT -5
NO. WAY. Are you trying to tell me that we never learn what's in the sugar bowl, the fates of the Baudelaires' allies or what that mysterious question mark is??? MADNESS. LS would never do that unless he wanted his fans to murder him in his sleep. The book's coming out tomorrow, so I'll know then, but this is disturbing news. I guessed that about Olaf, Kit and baby Beatrice, but seriously, that girl means to tell us that we never find out the most important secrets, which we've waited a number of books to discover? NO. We must. It's as simple as that. I don't believe her anyway; if she were telling the truth, she'd be able to tell us something we couldn't solve through simple guesswork, like, oh, how the Baudelaires manage to prove their innocence. The Beatrice Letters said Sunny appeared on the radio to discuss her recipes, but that wouldn't be possible if she remained a wanted killer. Then there's Kits' death. I don't doubt that it will happen, but it wouldn't occur until the end of the book, surely? What are the Baudelaires supposed to do for all those chapters? Sit around and discuss cooking with the pointless new characters that serve as islanders? I doubt it. And what about the man they're supposed to meet who has a book filled with secrets about their parents? Isn't it convenient that the people who gave these spoilers left that crucial bit of info. out? What does he tell the Baudelaires? Who is he? Is he Lemony Snicket? I don't hear anybody answering... I just think it's absolute madness for someone to suggest that half the returning characters will be swallowed up by the enormous creature/machine from TGG. How is that logical? And are these islanders even THE FFP pirates that Violet's supposed to meet in this book? Does Violet return to Briny Beach for a third time? Again, I don't hear anyone answering... Listen and listen good. There would be no point in half that stuff happening, so how could it? Daniel Handler surely doesn't wants hordes of murderers hunting him down on Friday. BTW, has everybody forgotten that the forbidden fruit and the incredibly deadly viper are supposed to be in this book? Or maybe it's just that girl and her cohorts, who are almost certainly lying about half that stuff... OK, we'll find out tomorrow, but for now... this news is abombinable and slightly upsetting. I'm sure that most will agree with me. I'm not sorry about the rant. AND the citation for bravery awarded in midair can't be left out of the equation, either. |
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