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Post by insane24 on Oct 13, 2006 7:19:24 GMT -5
good ending, but what about the bauldelaire parents and poison darts? ?? that was a big thing!! as with the sugar bowl! good ending but many mysteries not uncovered. maybe a series after the series? following the life of beatrice snicket? if that really is it id be very dissapointed to not know the answer to the sugar bowl. AN=nd i think violet would be called Lemony after lemony snicket, because beatice (the mother, not baby) would perhaps be mourning the loss of her lover, even after marrying bertrand. oh i dont know, just my views i guess
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 7:25:40 GMT -5
The sugar bowl was sort of answered. I think in a chapter it mentioned that it contained horseradish, or some antidote.
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Post by drearydreary on Oct 13, 2006 7:29:20 GMT -5
Remember the part when mother Baudelaire wanted to name her child Lemony if the child was a son. This is an indication that she still had feelings for Lemony Snicket.
So who burnt down the Baudelaire's house - was it not Olaf? I was a bit confused here.
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 7:32:36 GMT -5
Maybe like, one of the parents dropped a candle or something...
Who's little Bea's father? Dewey or Olaf?
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Post by PJ on Oct 13, 2006 7:33:48 GMT -5
Dewey, I'm guessing. And weren't they supposed to name their children after people who have died?
And we may never know. About the Baudelaire Mansion arsonist. All we know is that there was an ignoble person at the house beforehand.
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 7:35:26 GMT -5
And weren't they supposed to name their children after people who have died? What do you mean by that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 7:36:26 GMT -5
what was the clue at the end of TPP
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Post by PJ on Oct 13, 2006 7:43:25 GMT -5
what was the clue at the end of TPP The boat itself, perhaps? It played a pretty big role in things. Or perhaps Handler didn't have a clue. I mean, the title isn't an alliteration, and there's 14 chapters. Maybe he just felt that he should do things differently. And: "Name the baby after one of your parents, Baudelaires. The custom of my family is to name a baby for someone who has died." "Ours too," Sunny said, remembering something her father had told her when she had inquired about her own name." - Page 309 Also, when talking about their fortune, Sunny says "Mcguffin". A McGuffin is the name for something in a story that drives the plot forward, but has little or no impact on the actual story itself. In this case, the Baudelaire fortune. We never see it, no-one uses it, but it is Olaf's prime motivation for chasing after the Baudelaires. Just thought I should point that out. Sunny's awesome.
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Post by drearydreary on Oct 13, 2006 7:47:37 GMT -5
And weren't they supposed to name their children after people who have died? Yes, but in the case of Lemony, it cant be that mother Baudelaire wanted to name her son Lemony because Lemony died, as afterall, Lemony snicket was still alive, chronicling the lives of the Baudelaire orphans. Hence, I said earlier that it shows that mother Baudelaire still has feelings for Lemony Snicket. And guess what, there were 14 books after all! Book the last: Chapter Fourteen!
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Post by PJ on Oct 13, 2006 7:48:47 GMT -5
Yeah, that makes sense. Who was Violet named after? Or Sunny? Or Klaus, for that matter?
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 7:49:24 GMT -5
I wonder, why Olaf went to all that trouble... It's just money, everyone has it. Why the Baudelaires? Though, thinking back, The Baud parents killed his parents. I suppose that's motivation enough to cause the orphan's misery. He changed a lot in the end of The End, when he was with Kit. I wonder how their relationship went down with Lemony...
Why wasn't Klaus called Lemony?
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Post by drearydreary on Oct 13, 2006 7:52:06 GMT -5
I guees one major theme of the book is "The Great Unknown" Hence the many unsolved mysteries.
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 7:54:24 GMT -5
And again, we are left with more questions than what we can deal with, and less answers than what we began with.
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Post by PJ on Oct 13, 2006 8:15:48 GMT -5
I googled Olaf's last words. It's a quote from a poem called "This Be The Verse" by a guy called Philip Larkin. For the full poem, go here: www.artofeurope.com/larkin/lar2.htmThough it's got profanity. So beware. Most of his poems seem to be kinda rough. That guy is awesome. He totally reminds me of BSam. Edit: "...the drawing of an eye also spelled out the initials V.F.D., as the children had investigated the Volunteer Fire Department, first trying to decode the organization's sinister mysteries and..." That seems to concretely establish what V.F.D. actually stands for. At least, what the organisation is called.
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Post by Phoebonica on Oct 13, 2006 11:20:05 GMT -5
Just finished reading it.
My first reaction would have to be Kit! No! I suspected she was going to die, despite my opinions on the timeline (which is really messed up by the way) but I didn't want it to happen. Even knowing I was right about the Beatrices doesn't change things.
And Kit - and Olaf - and the kiss - ohmygosh.
I have nothing coherent to say, I'm sorry.
ETA: Except that I wonder if ...well, Lemony's got enough reasons to hate Olaf, but I can't help thinking that his past with Kit is partly why he often seems so disgusted by him.
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