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Post by superorange on Oct 13, 2006 20:22:13 GMT -5
I don't think you guys are getting the point of the last 5 or so pages. The answers to all those questions we have DON'T MATTER. The whole point was that they would never know anything, and even if he answered the questions we have, we'd still have more, and so on and so on.
Honestly, I don't think the Quagmires OR Fiona was meant for the Baud's. Almost noone meets their life love when they are teens.
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 13, 2006 20:24:39 GMT -5
I agree that the point of the 14th chapter (and, actually, the theme of most of the book) was the fact that none of the secrets really mattered. I think future chronicles about V.F.D. would be nice, but we definitely DON'T need a book wrapping up all the "loose ends".
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Post by Zavi on Oct 13, 2006 20:25:43 GMT -5
I think the sugar bowl deserved a mention, though. It pretty much lost its point.
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 13, 2006 20:28:41 GMT -5
True, I'm a bit sad that the Baudelaires never met up with Hector, the Quqmires and hte Widdershins family, along with never finding out what was in the sugar bowl or what happened that night or the opera or who was i nthe gian tquestion mark, but ultimately, I think The End was handled so beautifully, I couldn't ask for much more.
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Post by Orangey Snicket on Oct 13, 2006 20:31:51 GMT -5
Overall, I was very satisfied and thought it was a fitting ending. Yeah, things were unanswered but I think the most important, nagging ones were. (I agree on the sugarbowl thing... I mean all of TPP circulated around that.)
What I found sad though was that Count Olaf died. I mean, I just became entertained by him, even though he was a cruel character.
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Post by idiotj on Oct 13, 2006 20:33:32 GMT -5
IS HECTOR IN THE BOOK AT ALL? Like, on screennness, not just mentioned.
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Post by Zavi on Oct 13, 2006 20:33:50 GMT -5
I expected there would be unanswered questions, but I think that this volume took an entirely different path. It was really "isolated", if that's the word. It didn't involve the previous books as much. There was some rising action in books 10-12 that I thought would climax in this book, but it was pretty much new.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 20:35:54 GMT -5
IS HECTOR IN THE BOOK AT ALL? Like, on screennness, not just mentioned. not in person, only mentioned |
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 13, 2006 20:42:25 GMT -5
This just occured to me: Some people may argue that this book contains satanic symbolism, because a serpent hands the children the forbidden fruit and it is glorified as a turning point in the book and as a good thing. Just a thought. Also, what are your theories on Kit and Olaf?  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2006 20:46:33 GMT -5
childhood friend, from SS #5
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Post by Zavi on Oct 13, 2006 20:47:21 GMT -5
I liked the thing between Kit and Olaf. It sounded like the closest canon could get to Violaf.
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Post by Orangey Snicket on Oct 13, 2006 20:55:48 GMT -5
The Kit/Olaf thing I was like "WHAT?" but then I was like, "Well, okay." I'm not totally for it, but I'm warming to it.
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Post by SadOccasion on Oct 13, 2006 21:00:00 GMT -5
I still think Dewey was the father, but I think Olaf had a relationship with Kit during their days in V.F.D. training, before he joined the villianous side of the schism.
EDIT: Also, this thought just occured to me - if Beatrice #2 is Kit's daughter, isn't she technically Beatrice Denoument and not beatrice Baudelaire???
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Post by thesinistersnicket on Oct 13, 2006 21:03:08 GMT -5
Does anyone think, that Olaf changed a lot towards the end of the series. Like, when he handed the harpoon gun to Violet when he could have easily shot her, and how he helped Kit (who he loved I guess but still) and doing so did one last noble deed before he died. I don't know if he survived, he would be a better person but Kit's death might have changed him, and he might have cared for little Bea like a father would.
Edit:
The Baudelaire's cared for Bea like parents would, so I guess she took up the name. It makes sense.
Edit again:
Fiona, Fernald, Friday. Hmm.
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Post by Orangey Snicket on Oct 13, 2006 21:06:10 GMT -5
I guess Olaf had a bit of a moral compass in him. I liked the very minor change he underwent. It was just enough that it wasn't absolutely ridiculous for his character.
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