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Post by colette on Jul 12, 2011 13:04:43 GMT -5
In my opinion: +: 1. Thomas Newman's music. I am his fan! 2. Meryl Streep as Aunt Jozephine: she made a wonderful job. 3. The ending: it was so beautiful!!! 4. Wonderful choices of actors for Count Olaf's theatre troupe.except Luiz Gusman -: 1. Jim Carrey's acting. Count Olaf is not a comical character for me. He seems to be dramatical! 2. I couldn't hear Luiz Gusman. He talked too quietly. 3. Liam Aiken didn't wear glasses and he didn't look like Klaus! 4. Emily Browning:I didn't like her acting and she didn't look like Violet from my imagination. 5. Too many blusher on Emily Browning's cheeks at the moment of play. 6. I wanted Violet to climb on the tower. It was my favorite moment from TBB!!!!! 7. The play is far from how I imagined it while reading TBB. 8. A lot of interesting moments from books were omitted. 9. Fernald was whining about his arms! But he is not Kevin!!!
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Post by Invisible on Jul 12, 2011 13:30:20 GMT -5
The One Who Looked Like Neither a Man Nor a Woman, or "Tony" as I call him/her, is just a dude in a dress. I imagine the character to be a lot more amibiguous than that.
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Post by colette on Jul 12, 2011 15:20:36 GMT -5
The One Who Looked Like Neither a Man Nor a Woman, or "Tony" as I call him/her, is just a dude in a dress. I imagine the character to be a lot more amibiguous than that. Me, too .
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Post by bryan on Jul 12, 2011 16:31:46 GMT -5
The One Who Looked Like Neither a Man Nor a Woman, or "Tony" as I call him/her, is just a dude in a dress. I imagine the character to be a lot more amibiguous than that. He was also lacking... well... weight. I didn't think Liam Aiken was great, but he was... alright. One thing I just thought was interesting was seeing the silhouette of Snicket in the clock tower, then at the end of the movie when the kids are driving away, showing the same clock tower in the street they were driving down. Mostly because I didn't realize it until after watching it a few times.
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Post by Dante on Jul 13, 2011 2:21:10 GMT -5
I never noticed that detail about the clock tower. Admittedly, I have only seen the film once, but still. I guess that goes to show that they didn't place enough emphasis on it on-screen, but it's a detail they were right to include.
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Post by beack on Jul 13, 2011 7:53:44 GMT -5
Pros: The Locket of their parents the Destruction of Aunt Josephine's House Timothy Spall as Mr. Poe - Perfect casting The entire ending/end credits - My only problem is that it's a bit confusing. When I first saw it I thought it meant Lemony Snicket was Klaus. Most of the cast Billy Connoly - Though only for the in-joke. Meryl Streep. The DVD commentary!
Cons: Jim Carry - I don't hate his performance as much as everyone else, but I don't think they should have included as many improvisations he did as they did. Lack of Role for Justice Strauss - I understand some things have to be lost in any adaption, but they featured another judge in the film. They could have easily used her instead of hiring another actor. Color Could Have Been Darker - I'm probably making a big deal out of nothing, but I've seen this film in black and white so whenever I see it now it looks too colorful. Lemony Snicket's Role - Everytime he speaks it's redundant and unneeded (and not in a funny way). The only moment where they capture his style is when he suggests the audience jump from a plane. If they wanted to give him a proper role they should have credited him as co-writer or co-director.
I'm not sure if I would put the score as a pro or a con. I LOVE the score, but I think it was mischosen at times (just think how creepy "You're left side is the good one" would be if they used different music).
I actually understand and like most of the changes that Robert Gordon and Brad Silberling made to the story (I wouldn't like a word for word adaption like the first two Harry Potter films). I wish they could have gone with something more subtle, but for the most part it was visually interesting and funny, which I feel is key to making a good ASOUE film.
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Post by csc on Jul 13, 2011 9:29:04 GMT -5
Cons- I agree a lot with Beack. Especially about Lemony Snicket. It was really ridiculous and I think he could have had better lines and talked more like Snicket; the way we all know him. Also, I would have liked if Snicket had made an Alfred Hitchcock-y appearance on the movie, that would have been great. I dislike Liam Aiken aswell. Well, not so much his acting, but the fact that HE DIDN'T WEAR GLASSES! Which is the most striking thing about Klaus! Think about it, if they made a sequel, with TMM, how would they explain him going to the ophthalmologist so many times? How wou.d they brake his glasses, if he had none? And I won't even begin talking about Tim Carrey's acting. Also- a lot of important stuff wasn't there and a lot of significant stuff was created. They made stuff up that wasn't on the books. And I think each book should have been given more importance, maybe make each movie about two books, like Dante once suggested. And one thing I didn't get was Dustin Hoffman appearing on the middle of the movie, just to watch the play. It was nonsensical, he had nothing to do with the story. Anyways I disliked it a lot. At least after I read the series. Because when I saw it before I had read them, I loooved it and saw it again and again.
Pros- Meryl Streep. The house falling down. Billy Conolly. But that's about it. I guess the fact that it is a nice expeareance for people who haven't read the series it's a pro too.
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Post by beack on Jul 13, 2011 9:36:25 GMT -5
Also, I would have liked if Snicket had made an Alfred Hitchcock-y appearance on the movie, that would have been great. Yeah, and have his face pixilated out or in a crowd sequence where it would be impossible to tell which one is him. P.S. F.D. just out of curiosity have you seen the Lemony Snicket commentary? That's a real pro.
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Post by bryan on Jul 13, 2011 16:21:30 GMT -5
I dislike Liam Aiken aswell. Well, not so much his acting, but the fact that HE DIDN'T WEAR GLASSES! Which is the most striking thing about Klaus! Think about it, if they made a sequel, with TMM, how would they explain him going to the ophthalmologist so many times? How wou.d they brake his glasses, if he had none? I suppose they could have said he needed better vision and just assign him glasses at the opthamologist's or something.
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Post by colette on Jul 14, 2011 3:18:30 GMT -5
I didn't like Liam Aiken at all. He made Klaus aggresive and sometimes even rude. Klaus should be more polite and more kind.
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Post by Strangely on Jul 14, 2011 16:10:27 GMT -5
Pros: 1. I liked the acting, Emily browning was pretty fantastic. I did like Count Olaf's portrayal, CO in the books was way too dark and evil at times and for a kids movie that would have been just too much. 2. The sets are fantastic and the look of the film is very Snicket. 3. Those credits were awesome in more ways then I could ever say. 4. Giving us a definite answer to who burnt down the mansion (No offense to Lemony Snicket but letting us dangle in the wind about it for thirteen books only to have Olaf deny it was just kind of mean). 5. The music, it really captured the dreariness of the Snicket world. 6. Aunt Jo's house. This is sort of a pro/con for me, I like her house to some degree, but it bothers me that they didn't follow the illustrations. However the falling scene was so epic that it really redeems it for me. 7. The opening scene. That was classic Snicket all the way! I also love the subtleties of that scene (Like the Elf with the shotgun). 8. The train scene. Yes I realize people will hate me for saying it, but I did like the train scene. I mean it was a great set, great effects, great acting, and well written. Yes I dislike that it wasn't in the book, but I can't help but think that is what the Baudelaire's would have done if they were trapped on train tracks. Cons: 1. It didn't follow the book. But this barely bothers me because no movie adaptation of a book ever comes close (It's a difference in media's there's no way you can really translate it perfectly). 2. Liam Aiken wasn't quite right for the part, too old and often too much of a jerk. 3. It was too short, details were omitted, plots painfully cut down (I understand why they did it, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it). 4. That ending! Showing us that stupid silly Count Olaf punishment reel and having the voice over tell you what really happened (Not to mention in the most vague way possible) instead of showing us. I mean I liked the dark comedy they added, but when it comes at the expense of a major plot point (If not the most important plot point!) that just makes me mad. 5. The person of intermediate gender. In the deleted scenes and bloopers I really loved this character and it really had a fresh take on the character, but the scenes in the movie were just plainly lackluster. 6. Changing the circumstances of the fire. Really a giant eye shaped lens? That seems awfully complex for a villain who is presented as an idiot (He's an idiot, how would he know about refraction and convergence of light?). 7. Pacing. It bums me out that they combined books, I see why they did it, but it really does screw up the pacing. Also if you look at the timing of this movie TBB accounts for nearly 65 minutes of the film (If I recall correctly) I mean 20 more minutes and you would have had a single film right there. 8. The longest title ever known to mankind! I think it would have been better to go with the box set names, like The Trouble Begins or something. That title was just too long and honestly if there had been a sequel that title only would have been longer.
Overall I really liked this film, I mean yes it was very far away from the book, but I learned a long time ago that no movie will truly capture the book and all its details (And to be honest it was nice to see some new content, like adding VFD which was absent from the early books). And for a movie adapted from a book it ended up being pretty good. I like that they didn't tie themselves to the book completely, they did their own thing and created a unique experience, it wasn't just some copy of the books but a unique entity unto itself.
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Post by Invisible on Jul 14, 2011 18:54:20 GMT -5
You know I would've liked to have seen Mr. Poe's two beastly sons, Albert and Edgar. That would've been hilarious.
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Post by blakegriplingph on Jul 14, 2011 21:07:12 GMT -5
What I liked was they made the Series into a feature-length film, but I didn't like the fact that they changed a lot in the movie.
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Post by Dante on Jul 15, 2011 2:59:10 GMT -5
I don't know much about movies, but wouldn't the aggressiveness in Klaus's character that some of you have been complaining about be the fault of the writing and direction rather than Liam Aiken?
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Post by Invisible on Jul 15, 2011 7:52:21 GMT -5
You know, I always wanted a scene after the credits where Count Olaf appears in his Shirley disguise. In fact, the first time I saw it, I actually waited for one. Man, I was disappointed
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