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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Sept 21, 2014 11:49:45 GMT -5
But isn't that just confirmation that DH generally tries to avoid coincidences that could be mistaken for connections? Except of course when it's on purpose, like it is all over Adverbs. I've lent out my copy of TMM, so I can't check the passages in question for myself to decide whether I think it's intentional, but I don't wanna rule out the possibility that the Tatiana thing was done on purpose. After all, Colette is a much more important character than a sculptor who's only mentioned in passing, so this reference is of much less consequence to the ASOUEniverse/Snicketverse/Averse than the Colette Gracq one would've been. It's the kind of thing that an author, particularly one like Snicket, might do for fun. I'm sorry for being such a n0ob, but what is Midnight Demon and who is Marguerite Gracq? EDIT: What lah, censors... I don't even know what it was that got censored from your post? xD Anyway, 'Midnight Demon' is one of the 'incidents' from FU13, and one of the main characters in it are called Tatiana Cozy. Margerite Gracq is one of the characters from 'Inside Job', the first incident in the book.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Sept 21, 2014 11:55:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry for being such a n0ob, but what is Midnight Demon and who is Marguerite Gracq? EDIT: What lah, censors... I don't even know what it was that got censored from your post? xD Anyway, 'Midnight Demon' is one of the 'incidents' from FU13, and one of the main characters in it are called Tatiana Cozy. Margerite Gracq is one of the characters from 'Inside Job', the first incident in the book. Now, now, I forgot what is FU13, too! Blame my terrible long-term memory. The word which was censored was 'no0b' which turns into 'really cool member'
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Sept 21, 2014 11:58:14 GMT -5
I don't even know what it was that got censored from your post? xD Anyway, 'Midnight Demon' is one of the 'incidents' from FU13, and one of the main characters in it are called Tatiana Cozy. Margerite Gracq is one of the characters from 'Inside Job', the first incident in the book. Now, now, I forgot what is FU13, too! Blame my terrible long-term memory. The word which was censored was 'no0b' which turns into 'really cool member' Ah. =) It's File Under: 13 Suspicious Incidents.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Sept 21, 2014 12:01:57 GMT -5
Now, now, I forgot what is FU13, too! Blame my terrible long-term memory. The word which was censored was 'no0b' which turns into 'really cool member' Ah. =) It's File Under: 13 Suspicious Incidents. Oh, OK; I haven't got the book yet; it's not available at Central Java yet, but I'll try looking for it at Jakarta
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Post by Dante on Sept 21, 2014 12:51:56 GMT -5
]But isn't that just confirmation that DH generally tries to avoid coincidences that could be mistaken for connections? Except of course when it's on purpose, like it is all over Adverbs. I've lent out my copy of TMM, so I can't check the passages in question for myself to decide whether I think it's intentional, but I don't wanna rule out the possibility that the Tatiana thing was done on purpose. After all, Colette is a much more important character than a sculptor who's only mentioned in passing, so this reference is of much less consequence to the ASOUEniverse/Snicketverse/Averse than the Colette Gracq one would've been. It's the kind of thing that an author, particularly one like Snicket, might do for fun. I agree that there's reason to think that Handler erased an unintended connection and so therefore what remains must be an intended connection, but the fact that he did that also suggests that he is fallible. The original reference to Tatiana in TMM is much, much more forgettable than Colette's existence. You can feel free to read it however you want, and I'd be right with you if there was even the slightest hint of a connection, if Tatiana in Midnight Demon mentioned even the most passing interest in sculpture, but as it stands then the reference, if it is one, doesn't do much.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Sept 21, 2014 13:17:49 GMT -5
Daniel could just make himself an index with all the names he ever used in ASoUE, and now ATWQ, and it would solve any problems with unintended connections when coming up with new characters.
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Post by Hermes on Sept 21, 2014 14:00:23 GMT -5
Perhaps he changed Colette to Marguerite because he saw us speculating about it. Since we didn't speculate about Tatiana (we couldn't, as it wasn't released early), he had no reason to change that.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 7, 2014 11:05:13 GMT -5
Some minor speculation for ?4, which I believe is without spoilers for ?3: Perhaps Hangfire will somehow get ahold of Kit Snicket as leverage for Lemony, placing him in the same dilemma as Ellington. For bonus points, he may literally be in the same Dilemma as her when he gets the news. With Nurse Dander and Dr. Flammarion being imprisoned in the city alog with Kit, it doesn't seem too much of a stretch.
Also, and this is mostly a hunch, I'd like to vote Stew Mitchum “most likely to perish in ?4”, if for no other reason, then because we haven't heard anything about his getting up to any mischief as an adult. Also, killing a child seems to be a natural step in the way things are escalating now, and it couldn't be an associate of L., since it seems that the sympathetically portrayed children are generally left alive to suffer in Snicket's works.
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Post by Dante on Oct 7, 2014 11:14:17 GMT -5
I've been anticipating for a while that Lemony will have to grudgingly rescue Stew Mitchum at some point. Stew's harrassment of animals, and maybe even of other people, seems inconsistent with Hangfire's implied motives; I have a hard time imagining that Hangfire likes Stew very much, and I'm sure he'd be quite willing to chain Stew up with the rest of the prisoners once he was no longer of any use.
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Post by gliquey on Oct 7, 2014 13:27:07 GMT -5
Some minor speculation for ?4, which I believe is without spoilers for ?3: Perhaps Hangfire will somehow get ahold of Kit Snicket as leverage for Lemony, placing him in the same dilemma as Ellington. For bonus points, he may literally be in the same Dilemma as her when he gets the news. When I first read ?2, I was expecting a big pun with the word "Dilemma" nearer the end of the book, but it never really happened. With (very minor spoiler) the Dilemma appearing again in ?3 , it's definitely possible that we'll have a situation in ?4 where Snicket is in a dilemma, in the Dilemma. Will the Kit/Lemony plots link up somehow? Kit being kidnapped is an interesting idea and I'd be interested to see it happen.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 9, 2014 17:15:33 GMT -5
Will the Kit/Lemony plots link up somehow? Kit being kidnapped is an interesting idea and I'd be interested to see it happen. Though I'm actually very averse to glorifying my own random guessing to the point of giving it a name, it's really too tempting to call this "The Kit-napping Theory". I never could resist a pun.
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Post by M David Steel on Oct 14, 2014 16:01:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking book four will be called "why did you do that?" and be about murder. First, one person is discovered or heard off, then another, lemony realises he is noew dealing with a serial killer and wouldnt suprise me if H. wishes to knock off harvey and mimi, think it through
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Post by Dante on Oct 14, 2014 16:23:52 GMT -5
Much though Olaf may have slaughtered his way through many people over the course of ASoUE, somehow Hangfire turning serial killer seems a little bit dark for ATWQ. Maybe it's because we know these people quite well by now and value their lives, whereas life was honestly pretty cheap in ASoUE.
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Post by M David Steel on Oct 14, 2014 17:20:10 GMT -5
Do you think hangfire will die?
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Post by Teleram on Oct 14, 2014 17:28:35 GMT -5
Given the nature of the series, I think he'd either get away free, or die before Lemony has the chance to expose him.
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