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Post by E on Feb 7, 2004 22:29:30 GMT -5
Yes, I'm taking that quote out of LSUA. But before you pick up this post and deposit it in the Anguished Autobiography section, allow me to introduce the topic of this post.
Remember in TUA where a little note near the end said "it turns out there was another floor above the penthouse..." and nothing else? I have a theory on that.
Obviously, LS is most likely referring to the Dark Avenue Penthouse Suite.
There are exactly 66 floors, right? This caught my eye- considering the address of the penthouse is 667 Dark Avenue. Could this somehow be linked to perhaps a 67th floor above?
I know the accepted theory of why LS wanted Jerome to buy the penthouse and never, ever sell it was because of the secret passageway. But couldn't he could buy any room in the complex and still have access to the passageway?
What if there was something important above the penthouse as well?
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Post by cwm3 on Feb 8, 2004 4:49:44 GMT -5
Somebody might have sabotaged the lift? Or there's another way of reaching the 'other floor'?
Good theory, though.
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Post by E on Feb 8, 2004 10:19:24 GMT -5
Oh, all right. So the two doors are on the penthouse floor.
I did wonder briefly if someone had sabotaged the lift... what if the second pethouse elevator not only lead downwards to the passageway but upwards as well? And swans has a very good point- I never considered the 67th to be the underground one.
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Post by Rikku on Feb 8, 2004 10:48:15 GMT -5
both of you make good points. I never thought of this myself.
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Post by E on Feb 8, 2004 15:13:30 GMT -5
Most of this stuff comes to me at, like, three in the morning. And then I usually forget it unless I get up and write it down. It's very strange.
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Post by E on Feb 8, 2004 15:50:55 GMT -5
I wondered about that. I assumed that I was missing something when I read it. But how did he get down? How did he get up, for that matter?
Oh- that last comment about the Baudelaire parents is intriguing, though. Maybe that's evidence that there was, at one time, an elevator there. Or some other way of getting up. It might be farfetched, but maybe all VFD member have the means of getting up and down somehow? That would explain how Olaf did it.
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 8, 2004 15:56:15 GMT -5
Good point about the 667th floor. It rings quite true considering it is 667 dark avenue.
I think that originally, there was an elevator there, but when elevators went "out" (which I'm quite sure Esmé had a say in) Esmé removed the second elevator. Or, The elevator was stationed above the doors (notice how the Baudelaires didn't look up) and even though there was no ropes, endlessly looped belt, push-button console, or electromagnetic braking system or enclosed platform; there could be a simpler platform/pulley contraption that didn't need the complicated parts.
Back to Esmé. We know Olaf used the exit in the remains of the mansion because the post man heard rumors of "ghosts" there. This could mean that Olaf frequently used this passage, while the orphans resided at the penthouse suite.
Another thing I just realized: The Baudelaire parents has many dinner parties, right? And usually they included their children in the dining. But what if, after dinner, the parents took the guests into the Library, or whatever room had the secret passage, and took them to the underground space for a VFD meeting? The kids wouldn't suspect anything if they were in a different part of the house (it being so large) and the volunteers could leave the mansion pretending they'd had an enjoyable dinner party and nothing more.
This would have lasted until the HQ's were changed, which seems to be quite often.
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Post by E on Feb 8, 2004 16:03:11 GMT -5
Good point about the 6 67th floor. It rings quite true considering it is 667 dark avenue. Another thing I just realized: The Baudelaire parents has many dinner parties, right? And usually they included their children in the dining. But what if, after dinner, the parents took the guests into the Library, or whatever room had the secret passage, and took them to the underground space for a VFD meeting? The kids wouldn't suspect anything if they were in a different part of the house (it being so large) and the volunteers could leave the mansion pretending they'd had an enjoyable dinner party and nothing more. This would have lasted until the HQ's were changed, which seems to be quite often. Good point! Bolt from the blue, if you excuse my shameless quoting. I never thought of that. That sounds, well, extremely likely. And another thing- wouldn't that mean Mr. Poe is a member of the VFD? He's a likely candidate, in my opinion. Oh, and thank you for the compliment.
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 8, 2004 17:05:19 GMT -5
You're welcome.
I know, it just hit me while I was reading the thread. Mr Poe could have come to a regular dinner party. I don't want him to be in VFD.
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Post by E on Feb 8, 2004 18:49:14 GMT -5
Why not? Besides the fact he's a complete muttonhead... ehe.
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 9, 2004 11:04:15 GMT -5
Really, thats the reason. He's quite unobservant, which wouldn't make him fit for VFD anyway.
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Post by E on Feb 9, 2004 19:03:04 GMT -5
Very suspicious, indeed- good points. I think being picky in this regard is probably a good idea, on account of the fact that LS/DH may have unintentionally let something slip just then.
From the evidence provided it seems Poe could be on the good side of the schism, the bad side, or the oblivious bystander he's portrayed as. What's your personal opinion? What's anyone's opinion, for that matter?
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Feb 12, 2004 21:08:25 GMT -5
Wow! An original theory!
There was probably once a rope tied to the very top of the shaft. Did TEE mention whether the Baudelaires noticed any space above themin the elevator? The penthouse entrance is just one level down the shaft, you could climb the rope up it to the very top and press a button to gain entrance to the 67th floor.
As for access to the penthouse being limited, you probably need a key-card to gain access to the top most floors, like it is in fancy hotels.
The penthouse is so terribly sprawling that it probably has two floors, there is probably a passageway from the elevator someone between rooms, and that passageway probably leads to a room that's hidden between other rooms in the penthouse. Whoever rented the penthouse could get to the 67th floor by using a sledgehammer on one of the right walls.
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Post by SlightlyMad on Feb 18, 2004 15:15:34 GMT -5
The door man said they removed the plat form what if olaf remover the the platform so the bauds couldn't get to a v.f.d headquaters and meet there parents assuming they were still hiding there then he thought he could hide the quags thtre as a bonus
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Post by Bright HIM on Feb 21, 2004 0:10:51 GMT -5
wow i never considered that to lead to anything really. i just thought it was just maybe a lift to the roof. but now that you mention it like that, yeah, that is as really good theory.
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