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Post by Dante on Jun 13, 2016 10:14:22 GMT -5
I hope they make more use of Jacques than the books did. Have him appear in scenes outside the Baudelaire narrative in books preceding TVV, maybe appear in flashback in books following TVV. For who Jacques is, his death doesn't have that much impact, and I'd like it if we were made to regret it more.
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Post by lorelai on Jun 13, 2016 16:31:56 GMT -5
Yes, I'd love for Jacques's death to have an emotional hit for the audience. I've felt it had an impact on reread, but that's different and with ATWQ q back it, if only slightly.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jun 13, 2016 17:14:07 GMT -5
lol if I had a penny for every time Dante mentioned the Jacques drama increase
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jun 13, 2016 17:26:25 GMT -5
You would have at least one penny.
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Post by Hermes on Jun 13, 2016 17:33:03 GMT -5
The Jacques thing is problematic, because when he appears he is supposed to be mysterious, and we don;t initially know his surname - when it's revealed, it is an important step in revealing the link between Lemony's story and the Baudelaires' story, whose gradual unfolding is a significant theme. But I dare say he could be kept mysterious even while being given more to do. (He remains mysterious in ATWQ, of course - so much so that without promotional material we wouldn't know he was involved in the plot at all.)
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Jun 14, 2016 1:26:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't actually mind if Jacques doesn't get much, or in fact any, exposition before the TVV episodes. I think it works well enough, having him die to an effect of shock and concern about the Baudelaires, rather than him personally, then retroactively making us care about him and regret his death.
All of this may work differently, though, if Jacques is Jacqueline now.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Jun 14, 2016 2:38:49 GMT -5
I think it will make good sense to introduce him more or less at his death and then learn about him after, as we do in the books. I imagine they'd film his scenes with Quigley and perhaps go into more detail with them.
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Post by Dante on Jun 14, 2016 6:40:32 GMT -5
Good point; his backstory scenes with Quigley seem quite likely to be filmed rather than simply related in dialogue. lol if I had a penny for every time Dante mentioned the Jacques drama increase It's hardly a crazy position that Jacques should be presented, even if only retrospectively, as of equal importance to his siblings, each of whom received far more narrative attention.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jun 14, 2016 12:17:37 GMT -5
It's cool, I actually like the idea, I've just seen you mention it more than a couple of times
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Post by Dante on Jun 14, 2016 13:51:20 GMT -5
I hate missed opportunities. Also, my mind irrationally believes that if I mention it enough, it increases the chances of it actually happening.
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Post by Teleram on Aug 28, 2016 18:34:42 GMT -5
That's hardly ever a real problem, even in the most complex TV plots, e.g. Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Game Of Thrones, etc. In fact, I don't know of any shows that have the same director every episode. i know i'm really late on this, but i can't believe i forgot to respond "steven soderbergh and the knick" when bandit said this.
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Post by bear on Aug 28, 2016 20:05:55 GMT -5
it's better you didn't, because it wouldn't have been a productive post with terry already giving an example (true detective).
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Post by Teleram on Aug 28, 2016 20:15:23 GMT -5
yeah but for true detective fukunaga did it for only one season. soderbergh has directed literally every episode of the knick. but i guess it doesn't matter either way.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Sept 21, 2016 16:37:43 GMT -5
New hope for the show: That we'll see editions of the early books in the background of the episodes corresponding to the later ones, further cementing the meta-fiction of the books as a chronicle of real events (and further complicating the task of arranging an accurate timeline).
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Post by Dante on Sept 22, 2016 1:52:06 GMT -5
I certainly don't think it's impossible that we'll see Lemony working on manuscripts which are visibly the titles in the series. Published versions in the background? Maybe if they do a young Beatrice subplot in the final season - which I hope they do.
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