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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 2, 2018 11:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by Grace on Apr 2, 2018 11:45:58 GMT -5
Love the video. & how upset the kids look like TAG ME IN if you're sick of the fame and fortune
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 2, 2018 12:17:07 GMT -5
Looks like it, judging from the cap and the insignia on said cap.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 3, 2018 14:09:23 GMT -5
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 4, 2018 19:38:52 GMT -5
INSIDER released a new article about season 3, which gives us some confirmation about what season 3 will be like, as well as some new info: "We just didn't think there was enough material to turn it into a two-episode show," Sonnenfeld said. "'The End' is sort of a coda." In addition to "The End," the third season adapts "The Slippery Slope," "The Grim Grotto," and "The Penultimate Peril." Sonnenfeld is directing "The Penultimate Peril" himself. "[Author Daniel Handler] always says that the ending was 'The Penultimate Peril,'" Sonnenfeld said. "It was the culmination of the series." Sonnenfeld also said "The End" will " be profoundly emotional" and cover more ground than the book. Netflix's TV adaptation has added multiple storylines while adapting the books to TV, though Sonnenfeld said the plot will end up in the same place in the end. "I think our script will be even more moving than the book," Sonnenfeld said. " It will explain a lot of questions that I think even readers had." www.thisisinsider.com/series-of-unfortunate-events-season-3-the-end-one-episode-2018-4 |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 5, 2018 3:07:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2018 3:28:49 GMT -5
Interesting news about TSS, given that she isn't in the original at all. Frankly intriguing news about what they have planned for The End.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Apr 5, 2018 5:44:40 GMT -5
I never particularly like it when directors suggest they're going to improve a book, especially when I see no need or room for improvement, so I'm not sure what to think about what's been said here. However, the hint that they're going answer a lot of lingering questions from the series is certainly interesting -- though again, I don't really know what to think. I love the ambiguity of The End and all the questions which are left up in the air, so I'm just really hoping they don't spoil that.
All that said, though, I think they've done a fantastic job so far, so I do have faith in them to uphold that level of quality for season 3.
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Post by gliquey on Apr 5, 2018 7:13:35 GMT -5
"We just didn't think there was enough material to turn it into a two-episode show" is something that worries me quite a bit, because it suggests that Sonnenfeld hasn't understood the point of TE. There's more to it than the plot - if they're just rushing through the storyline at the same pace they take the other episodes, then they're missing all the emotion of the book, and all of its themes. I just don't think there's room to do all of this and "cover more ground than the book" in one episode. He does say the episode will be "profoundly emotional" but I'm not quite sure how much I believe that.
"It will explain a lot of questions that I think even readers had" is also worrisome to me. I don't want to know be told what's in the sugar bowl, or see that the Great Unknown and the Bombinating Beast are the same. I would potentially be okay with them showing us what happens to the Quagmires, so long as it doesn't reveal exactly the nature of the Great Unknown.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Apr 5, 2018 7:51:22 GMT -5
"We just didn't think there was enough material to turn it into a two-episode show" is something that worries me quite a bit, because it suggests that Sonnenfeld hasn't understood the point of TE. There's more to it than the plot - if they're just rushing through the storyline at the same pace they take the other episodes, then they're missing all the emotion of the book, and all of its themes. I just don't think there's room to do all of this and "cover more ground than the book" in one episode. He does say the episode will be "profoundly emotional" but I'm not quite sure how much I believe that. "It will explain a lot of questions that I think even readers had" is also worrisome to me. I don't want to know be told what's in the sugar bowl, or see that the Great Unknown and the Bombinating Beast are the same. I would potentially be okay with them showing us what happens to the Quagmires, so long as it doesn't reveal exactly the nature of the Great Unknown. Me too. TE is set at a slower pace for a reason. I don't want them to rush this book at all; it's so introspective, so thoughtful, so reflective ... I don't want to miss all that. I don't want it to be sacrificed for new material which will ultimately not be nearly as interesting as a faithful adaptation would be. The fate of the Quagmires would probably be one of the only mysteries which I wouldn't mind being revealed on screen -- although at the same time, I would really only be happy about this if I knew that it was coming from Daniel Handler. I don't want anyone else to tell me what happened to the Quagmires, because their ideas wouldn't really matter -- as far as I'm concerned, what DH says, goes. I would hate someone else to come along and decide to 'answer' all the unanswered questions. Also worrisome to me is the fact that he said 'a lot of questions I think even readers had' -- because yes, of course we have them. That's the point. We're not supposed to know everything. The Baudelaires don't know everything. The open-ended nature of TE is perfect because it gives a sense of a wider world, of the continuing lives of the Baudelaires, the continuing world of V.F.D. People don't get all the answers to their questions, and The End perfectly represented that. So it seems a strange thing to say 'even' readers of ASOUE still had questions. Still, I'm going to try not to worry about this too much for now, and hope that this quote doesn't accurately reflect what TE will be like on screen. |
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Apr 5, 2018 9:13:41 GMT -5
I actually have relatively good faith in the team to make a decent adaptation of TE, and the quote assures me a little. I don't want the mysteries plainly answered, either - particularly not what's in the sugarbowl, or whether The Great Unknown is the Bombinating Beast. The whole point of TGU is that it's unknown. But I think they're doing a good job of the adaptations so far, and I can't imagine they just haven't thought ahead about how to finish the series. Besides, we don't know for a fact that TE will be shorter in runtime than the other books - the way I read it, they just might have decided there wasn't an appropriate place to split the story into two 'acts', which seems reasonable to me exactly because the last book is so much more reflective and slow-paced than the rest. There's less material, but they might still spend almost the same amount of time on it. I'm not worried about them adding more to it, either - they've been adding plotlines to the story during the whole series, so it seems natural that they'd add something to the finale in order to do the Snicket equivalent of wrapping up on those. Also worrisome to me is the fact that he said 'a lot of questions I think even readers had' -- because yes, of course we have them. That's the point. We're not supposed to know everything. The Baudelaires don't know everything. The open-ended nature of TE is perfect because it gives a sense of a wider world, of the continuing lives of the Baudelaires, the continuing world of V.F.D. People don't get all the answers to their questions, and The End perfectly represented that. So it seems a strange thing to say 'even' readers of ASOUE still had questions. The "I think" is what reassures me on this part - the fact that he thinks so, but doesn't know it for sure, suggests to me that the answers they'll give are actually in the book, just not obvious on a first read. It might just be some of the stuff that we nerds picked up from subtext and web forums, such as the connection between Miranda Caliban and Olivia. And in the end, the main reason that I'm not too worried: The confirmation that the plot will end up the same place in the end. There's no happy ending, not here and not now. |
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Post by Hermes on Apr 5, 2018 9:32:15 GMT -5
I was just about to say the same thing Comet said: he may mean questions readers had because they weren't reading carefully enough. E.g. a lot of people still think we were never told what 'VFD' stood for. Or perhaps questions that were meant to be hard but solvable - which may well be how DH thinks of the sugar bowl. (And we do know what happened to the Quagmires. They were swallowed by the Great Unknown. We don't know what the GU is, but we know how the Quagmires' story ends. The problem there wasn't not knowing, but the lack of the resolution may people were hoping for.)
Another possibility is that we will learn the answer to some minor mysteries we weren't really worried by, like Fiona and her brother's surname.
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Post by Dante on Apr 5, 2018 9:33:14 GMT -5
I am a little suspicious - possibly to positive effect - of Sonnenfeld's claim that there wasn't enough material in The End for two episodes, when in the very next breath he turns around and says they're adding more to it, which is exactly what they did to pad out many of the other books into two episodes. I find it hard to believe it's a coincidence that we've readily identified good reasons to adapt The End into only a single episode, and yet this is the one book the Netflix team thought was too short, the book that's joint second-longest in the series. In short, I am not taking this particular statement especially seriously at the moment.
I would agree, though, that I have always been of the opinion that any canonical confirmation of the true nature of the Great Unknown would be firm proof that the creators had entirely lost touch with the source material, and I extend that to Daniel Handler as well. I'm open to offers on other mysteries, though, where I'm not convinced Daniel Handler always intended to leave them open; additionally, the fact that Netflix's TCC has Olivia introduce the sugar bowl in relation to the night at the opera suggests they might have an original idea regarding its contents.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Apr 5, 2018 9:50:40 GMT -5
I think maybe all he means by "not enough material for 2 episodes" is that there was no place to split it like with the other books. I feel fairly confident that we will still get 1h15 maybe 1h30 long episode.
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Apr 5, 2018 10:25:54 GMT -5
(And we do know what happened to the Quagmires. They were swallowed by the Great Unknown. We don't know what the GU is, but we know how the Quagmires' story ends. The problem there wasn't not knowing, but the lack of the resolution may people were hoping for.) Yes, you're quite right that we know they were swallowed by the GU -- but I think it's fair to say that we don't really know what happened to them precisely because we don't know what the GU is: their fate rests very heavily on the exact nature of the GU. |
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