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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 26, 2018 19:28:13 GMT -5
Looks like Mr. Poe and Larry Your-Waiter will both be making a small appearance in The End. https://www.instagram.com/p/BiDaXKHjWGr https://www.instagram.com/p/BiDbHKtjL8q [Given that the Penultimate Peril only finished shooting yesterday and that this is their last day, I doubt they're going to be in it very much.] :Edit: Also, one of the wigs in the back is labeled Babs. Guessing she's going to pop back up in the Penultimate Peril. |
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Post by gliquey on Apr 26, 2018 19:45:01 GMT -5
Looks like Mr. Poe and Larry Your-Waiter will both be making a small appearance in The End. Oddly enough this is what concerns me most. I've accepted that we could end up with a quite short The End, but in that case I want it to be very focused and like an epilogue. The only returning characters should be Olaf, Kit and the Baudelaires (parents included, in flashbacks). Possibly I would be fine with us seeing what happens to the Quagmires, but I don't want entirely new plots involving Larry, or contrived ways to bring Mr. Poe into the episode. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 26, 2018 19:52:09 GMT -5
Looks like Mr. Poe and Larry Your-Waiter will both be making a small appearance in The End. Oddly enough this is what concerns me most. I've accepted that we could end up with a quite short The End, but in that case I want it to be very focused and like an epilogue. The only returning characters should be Olaf, Kit and the Baudelaires (parents included, in flashbacks). Possibly I would be fine with us seeing what happens to the Quagmires, but I don't want entirely new plots involving Larry, or contrived ways to bring Mr. Poe into the episode. I don't think that they'll be in it for too long. Barry Sonnenfeld said in an interview a few months ago, that out of each day of filming, only about 2 and a half to 4 minutes of the footage they've shot actually makes it into the final product. And since this is the only day they've shot... :Edit: Also, the first picture might've been taken yesterday, which is when they finished filming the Penultimate Peril. |
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Post by imlarryyourwaiter on Apr 26, 2018 20:13:36 GMT -5
Pretty sure they have not started The End, I assume this is from the end of TPP. There is no way Babs would appear in The End as well, so TPP. Also, Larry’s Instagram includes a trolley, which makes sense for TPP and not The End.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 26, 2018 20:55:21 GMT -5
Pretty sure they have not started The End, I assume this is from the end of TPP. There is no way Babs would appear in The End as well, so TPP. Also, Larry’s Instagram includes a trolley, which makes sense for TPP and not The End. There's no question that they've finished filming the Penultimate Peril and have started The End. That much has been made clear by multiple posts from the cast and crew on their social media. As to the date of the photo, that I could not tell you. But I would caution that just because Babs' wig is in the back of the shot, does not mean it's from yesterday. Since they only finished filming the Penultimate Peril less than a day ago, they might not have had time to clear out all the wigs from the hair and makeup trailer. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 26, 2018 21:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by theplague on Apr 26, 2018 21:08:40 GMT -5
I think I could understand having Mr. Poe make a cameo because he's one of the first characters we meet so it kind of makes for a nice circle to have him at least briefly appear. He's also much more prominent than he is in the books. I don't really get how they could include Larry, unless he somehow winds up in the Queequeg with the Quagmires and the rest.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Apr 26, 2018 21:12:15 GMT -5
Given all the news about The End that we've received so far. I have the very strong impression that it and the Penultimate Peril are going to be the episodes that deviate most wildly from the books. Not that that's an inherently bad thing, the scripts were still written, supervised, and approved by Daniel Handler after all. :Edit: Also, (and Dante would probably know) wasn't there a rumor that Daniel Handler's original draft for the Penultimate Peril involved a long sequence where the children went back to Olaf's house ? Any idea about how that would've affected his original conception for The End ? |
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Post by veryfakedonkey on Apr 26, 2018 22:24:12 GMT -5
In what way do we thing TPP will deviate?
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Post by kingarthur on Apr 27, 2018 2:47:01 GMT -5
Do we think that Larry could replace Phil in TGG, which explains how he could end up with the Quagmires et al. Maybe he washes up on the island with Kit?
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Post by Dante on Apr 27, 2018 3:10:05 GMT -5
I would hope that none of the characters who were ever at the Hotel Denouement, which should be essentially everyone, will have any cameos whatsoever in The End, as that undermines the definitively open ending for the fates of all the characters who were present on the occasion. What I could tolerate, though, is a take on Snicket's sequence at the end of TPP where he discusses how you might have encountered any of the characters in your ordinary life doing something completely different now; I'm picturing a sort of ordinary street where every passerby is a cast member in a different costume and profession. :Edit: Also, (and Dante would probably know) wasn't there a rumor that Daniel Handler's original draft for the Penultimate Peril involved a long sequence where the children went back to Olaf's house ? Any idea about how that would've affected his original conception for The End ? Please examine the following exchange: 19. You've said you had to change your plan because of the line from The Bad Beginning, "Klaus read through Count Olaf's papers and books." What would have happened differently if you had never written this line, and what were the Baudelaires going to find? - DanteEarly research indicated that the Baudelaires had stopped at Count Olaf’s home on the way to the island, and discovered there, rather than beneath the roots of the apple tree, certain materials described in The End. Further investigation, including the sentence you cited, made it clear that this was most certainly not what could have happened. No rumour here; my question was derived from a statement he made in an interview. Do we think that Larry could replace Phil in TGG, which explains how he could end up with the Quagmires et al. Maybe he washes up on the island with Kit? I have been seriously considering the possibility that Larry could replace Phil in TGG, though I think it's equally possible that Phil could be replaced by nobody, as his presence doesn't alter the plot much and Handler completely forgets about him after that book. I looked over the book recently to investigate this, and I'm actually not sure who exactly Widdershins is including in his description of the Queequeg's famous "Crew of Two" - does the captain not count, or Fiona because she's family? It's easy to see how you could knock Phil out and concentrate more on the family angle; Phil was only really there because Handler was enjoying bringing back minor characters at the time. Larry in The End? I hope not; nobody else has any business showing up out of turn in that book, especially if they're doing a minimalist take on it. |
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Apr 27, 2018 4:06:37 GMT -5
Larry, Mr. Poe and Sunny are in the scene mentioned in the Instagram post, so it's most probably in The Penultimate Peril. Because the trolley is in the shot, maybe it's at Briny Beach (at the start of the two episodes) or in the city (during the episodes).
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Post by Grace on Apr 27, 2018 5:31:13 GMT -5
Having Mr. Poe on the island would change the whole nature of the story. It's much more likely that IF K. Todd is in the last episode, it's in a scene taking place elsewhere.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Apr 27, 2018 6:36:22 GMT -5
A 2-week shoot of TE does sound worrying, especially since, even if other actors appear in flashbacks and the like, Olaf and the Baudelaires should really be what carries that episode. I hope it will last at least an hour, preferably more, to make it feel as properly momentous as the book did. Still, like Phil, I remain an optimist.
Speaking of, I always assumed the 'Crew of Two' was actually a 'Crew of two plus whoever happens to be around those two', much like Electric Light Orchestra is actually 'Jeff Lynne plus whoever happens to be standing near him when he gets an idea for an album'; with the 'two' being Widdershins and Fiona, since Phil was such a recent addition. Although checking in the book just now, it does explicitly say that Phil is "the second of our crew of two", so I guess that can't be the case.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 27, 2018 8:40:42 GMT -5
I take it that Fiona is too young to count as a crew member. She must, after all, have been on the Queequeg at the time that Jacques, Lemony and a horrible woman who turned out to be a spy were crew members.
As for Mr Poe, he could well appear in a flashback, given that he (or at least someone of that name) is mentioned in Olaf's story in The End. Larry is not, but given the larger part that he has been assigned in this seris, he could easily replace one of the characters who are.
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