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Post by Dante on Jun 17, 2005 2:11:47 GMT -5
Wouldn't it have been easier to take the Quagmires out of the passageway, and smuggled them to Veblen Hall, rather than squeezing the Herring statue down the passageway? It seems more logical to me. True, but it might look suspicious if anyone saw Olaf carrying two struggling kids down a back alley - but if they saw him carrying a giant fish statue, then they wouldn't think that he was doing anything criminal. I suppose he could have put them in a sack or something, though. |
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Post by SnicketFires on Jun 17, 2005 19:54:15 GMT -5
True, but it might look suspicious if anyone saw Olaf carrying two struggling kids down a back alley - but if they saw him carrying a giant fish statue, then they wouldn't think that he was doing anything criminal. I suppose he could have put them in a sack or something, though. I know it said somewhere that Olaf managed to fit both Quagmires into a tuba case and take it on a bus, but I couldn't find the quote. But perhaps he did something like that to get them to Veblen Hall. |
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Post by Antenora on Jun 17, 2005 19:56:50 GMT -5
I think the "instrument case" thing was from TAA; I remember that Olaf claimed it was a tuba he was taking to his aunt, or something similar. That must have been one large instrument case, if it could contain two preteenage(I'm guessing the triplets are about 12) children.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 17, 2005 20:59:13 GMT -5
It was in tee
"But by the time detectives found his car the Quagmires had already been transferred to an instrument case which Olaf fooled the bus driver into thinking was a tuba he was giving to his aunt."
*paraphrase*
Yeah, I don't know exactly how that transfer worked...
But that's kind of off topic?
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Post by brenton on Jun 18, 2005 10:40:00 GMT -5
I say not completely an accident but thats what i voted, because of the contractions and refractions of light.
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Post by Antenora on Jun 18, 2005 10:44:43 GMT -5
I say not completely an accident but thats what i voted, because of the contractions and refractions of light. It's "convergence and refraction", and that was the cause of the fire in the movie, not the books. Movie clues are not applicable to the books. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 18, 2005 15:21:40 GMT -5
Olaf (or other arsonist) may have used that particular method though, to eliminate suspicions of foul play. No matches no torches, no real evidence that it WAS arson...
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Post by Dante on Jun 18, 2005 15:36:44 GMT -5
Of course, if Olaf or his associates are controlling the fire department, then there wouldn't be any evidence, would there? It would all have been disposed of. Or the burning of the mansion may have been accidental, or done in a way that made it seem accidental. It's a bit elaborate, too - and Olaf's preferred method of arson is matches, as we can tell from his lifetime's supply on the Carmelita.
Edit: That last sentence doesn't apply if it was another arsonist, although I will still complain bitterly if the convergance and refraction of light method turns out to be how the fire was started.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 18, 2005 16:01:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't complain so long as it was Olaf that did it.
Preferred method is matches?
It was said that the library of records would need to be 'torched' and in both the montgomery and quagmire mansions the fires were started with a torch. It wasn't Olaf for sure, but come on now, make some inferences...
And we SAW olaf use torches at the caligari carnival.
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Post by Antenora on Jun 18, 2005 19:28:51 GMT -5
Olaf did indeed use torches on some occasions, but I imagine he lit them with matches before throwing them at whatever he was trying to burn. I don't think one match(or even a few) could generate enought flames to burn a house down, but if you used your match to light a torch you'd have a bigger flame to start with.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 18, 2005 19:40:59 GMT -5
That sounds reasonable....
I wonder what kind of torch he prefers...
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Post by lauren on Jun 18, 2005 20:22:30 GMT -5
there are different kinds of torches?? I'm just imagining a wooden stick with a flame on it...anywhos a torch isn't the only answer..he could have just used matches on something flammable e.g. a piano...:S
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 18, 2005 20:57:59 GMT -5
Yes I suppose.
Well a torch could be a burning stick or it could be like torches from the middle ages and could possibly include fuel...
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Post by Antenora on Jun 19, 2005 7:14:14 GMT -5
I imagine the torches Olaf used are wooden sticks with lighter fluid or fuel on the end that's lighted. If you threw one of these lit torches onto a flammable item, I think you could cause quite a lot of fiery destruction.
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Post by Dante on Jun 19, 2005 10:27:08 GMT -5
Very fiery destruction, I imagine.
I imagine that the torches probably aren't too advanced - where's the point in complexity, if they are to be used once and then consumed?
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