Fire at the Baudelaire Mansion

[cj]

I realize the movie is diffrent but olaf did it i mean the magnifying glass. If handler wanted it diffrently then it would.

[Antenora]

The magnifying glass isn't in the books, though. It's part of the movie "canon", not the book canon.

[Editor]

I beleive Olaf did it, but it doesn't mean he didn't have any help.....
Thank You.
Editor

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

My original theory was that Olaf and Esme did via the 667 passageway but that doesn't seem to work, given some evidence that they were married after tmm so Esme wouldn't have had access to it... I'm confident Olaf did it but the 'how' is still elusive... After he spoke to them and after his plot to burn down the dairy was foiled by rain yes, but HOW and when etc...

[PJ]

He came to their house, and was invited in. He dranks some brandy, without a coaster, and there was probably an argument, which ends with Olaf throwing the brandy into the fire, which explodes, and fleeing. Perhaps he locks the door behind him, or something, to prevent the parents from surviving.

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

I can't see that locking a door of a house would prevent the owners from surviving...
Nor do I think the brandy bottle caused the fire because the baudelaires saw it after the fire, meaning it was still recognizable and if it were the source it probably would be destroyed beyond recognition.
Yes I do think he probably talked with them and drank brandy without a coaster but whether he left, or set the fire there and then, or how he stopped the parents from leaving their own house... That's harder to answer.

[PJ]

mynamesjacques said:

I can't see that locking a door of a house would prevent the owners from surviving...

So if the house is burning down, being locked in a room isn't any hindrance at all? Dante, you had better re-write Ashes and Memories....

mynamesjacques said:

Nor do I think the brandy bottle caused the fire because the baudelaires saw it after the fire, meaning it was still recognizable and if it were the source it probably would be destroyed beyond recognition.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if the bottle was intact or not...
I still think he threw it into the fire, or somehow used it to burn down the place.

[Dante]

He could have splashed some around in a drunken rage, and then set it alight.

[Antenora]

Maybe Olaf poured some brandy on the curtains or carpet, or "accidentally" spilled it, before he started the fire.

[Juan Roberto Montoya De Toledo]

I believe Olaf did it. My belief comes from TWW. Olaf, when his various crimes are being listed by Mr Poe, says, "And arson." Yet, by TWW, we hadn't seen Olaf start any fires.

EDIT: Having looked through the whole thread, I see my opinion has already been voiced by someone else. Mr Poe had been hiding something under his hat, a piece of important evidence linking Olaf to the fire, perhaps?

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

philipjucker said:

mynamesjacques said:

I can't see that locking a door of a house would prevent the owners from surviving...

So if the house is burning down, being locked in a room isn't any hindrance at all? Dante, you had better re-write Ashes and Memories....

Well if Olaf simply locks the front door behind him all the baudelaires have to do is get some water/stamp out the fire and/or just unlock the door, since front doors obviously lock from the inside of the house, and they're off to freedom.

[Juan Roberto Montoya De Toledo]

But, if the door opened from the inside, how would Olaf lock it behind him?

[Antenora]

Maybe it was one of those doors that you can adjust so that it locks if it falls shut. So you'd set it so it was locked, from the inside, and then close it, and it'd be locked.

[Juan Roberto Montoya De Toledo]

Yes. That does seem like the logical explanation.

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

Well sure but it doesn't explain how the Baudelaires died. Being unable to open their own lock which was on the inside of the house where they were?
I think not.