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Post by SnicketFires on Apr 12, 2005 20:24:31 GMT -5
Here's another idea for "Poe's note" J.S.. It would be a completely legitimate twist, but a person no-one has guessed yet as far as I know. Poe said he believed the note was from Geraldine Julienne. We totally dismissed this idea because Poe is a fool and the initials don't seem to match. But suppose Poe is correct. "Geraldine Julienne" might be a pen name, perhaps her first and middle name, with a true last name starting with "S." Poe might know this. Even he is not stupid enough to read "J.S." and think "G.J.". How did Geraldine know to send Poe to Briny Beach? She works directly with Count Olaf, so I can imagine an exchange like this on the Carmelita: Olaf: "Fiona, you let the Baudelaires go!? Tell me where they went or I'll kill you!" Fiona: "All right, I'll tell you. They said they were going to Briny Beach." Olaf: "It's too late to intercept them, but I can telegraph Geraldine Julienne to send Poe to collect them. When they get to the police station she can trick Poe and get them into our hands." I really like this theory. Geraldine Julienne having a last name beginning with and S certainly has its merits, and it would have an element of surprise. I like it. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 13, 2005 17:56:26 GMT -5
It does sound plausible but I somehow doubt we'll see it happen. Maybe I just don't believe we'll actually see Geraldine Julienne active and recognized within the series(she may have been active but not recognized in books 8 and 9) or maybe I just don't think she has a last name that starts with s...
Still a good theory.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Apr 23, 2005 0:33:30 GMT -5
Ok, I saw the title of this thread and got to thinking. One of my favorite quotes from TGG is one from Lemony Snicket, which was "Madame diLustro, I do believe I've discovered your true identity!" So, this is a very big stretch, but maybe the Madame diLustro, whoever she is, and JS are related. I don't really have anything to back it up, but I thought this topic needed a new character to be thrown in the mix to discuss.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 25, 2005 17:52:36 GMT -5
I thought that as well. I know Madam diLustro is somehow involved in this VFD who's a villain who's noble scheme, Snicket didn't put that in for nothing, and I do believe we'll discover the mystery and see her again sometime. I have entertained thoughts that she was the one who drew Widdershins and Phil away...
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Post by Shelly on Apr 28, 2005 20:12:14 GMT -5
It is possible, but I tink nah, not really . . .
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 29, 2005 18:09:53 GMT -5
I think it's a very real possiblity as they were both mentioned in the same book at random and I don't believe in coincidences with important and mysterious book series like this...
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Post by jcgsebald on May 21, 2005 12:37:32 GMT -5
JS stand for Jaques Snicket. He escaped from jail and his father(Jake) took his place and was killed.
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Post by Dante on May 21, 2005 12:39:37 GMT -5
JS stand for Jaques Snicket. He escaped from jail and his father(Jake) took his place and was killed. An interesting theory, although one would have thought that Esmé and Olaf can tell the difference between a young man and his probably far-older father. And he wasn't called Jake - he was known as Jacob. |
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Post by jcgsebald on May 21, 2005 12:51:42 GMT -5
Dear Dante,
V.F.D. has disguses and make up. With enough make up he could look just like his son(Jaques)
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Post by Dante on May 21, 2005 12:56:02 GMT -5
Dear Dante, V.F.D. has disguses and make up. With enough make up he could look just like his son(Jaques) I would have hoped that Olaf/Esmé wouldn't be so lazy as to fail to notice this. However, I can come up with no actual evidence against this - I simply wouldn't like it. It seems so lazy. |
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Post by jcgsebald on May 21, 2005 13:02:34 GMT -5
Dear Dante,
Esme Squalor is not in V.F.D. V.F.D. could have stuff that Count Olaf doesn't, like better make up or more disguses.
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Post by Dante on May 21, 2005 13:09:29 GMT -5
Dear Dante, Esme Squalor is not in V.F.D. V.F.D. could have stuff that Count Olaf doesn't, like better make up or more disguses. The issue of whether Esmé is in V.F.D. or not is highly debateable, mainly because it's somewhat ambiguous. However, Olaf has almost certainly told her every single major detail about V.F.D. that he knows. The coded coffee stain is trivial - Olaf barely remembered it himself. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 21, 2005 17:35:49 GMT -5
I highly doubt this, we would've been given some sort of mysterious clue. There was none. And the Baudelaires, who recognize all disguises for what they are, recognized him as Jacques just before they pulled the shroud over him. No, Jacques is dead, the 'jacques and mr. Baud not rising up' quote in tss confirms this.
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Post by Dante on May 22, 2005 1:11:29 GMT -5
Oh, that too. I forgot what jcgsebald's original post said, and chose to recall it as "It was Jacob posing as Jacques all along," which wouldn't have the problem of the Baudelaires not recognising him as the same person, although the "never rise up" quote from TSS is still a problem. But since I don't believe this theory, that problem doesn't really concern me.
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Post by Grace on May 22, 2005 8:58:19 GMT -5
Possibilities:
1) Josephine w/ maiden name. I doubt this one.
2) Jerome Squalor. I agree with MynamesJacques on this one, about how Jerome didn't SEEM to know anything about it, and how Jacques had to explain it to him, etc.
3) Jacques Snicket.
4) Jake Snicket.
5) Justice Strauss. Remember she said that Justice was her TITLE, not her NAME? Unless her real name started with a "J" as well. On the other hand, everyone addressed her as Justice.
OTHER:
1) Laissez-faire philosophy is something that means "let it be" or "not interfere with someone else's affairs."
2) A red herring, darkavenue13, is something that appears to be something but it's actually something else. For instance, in TEE, when The Bauds thought the Quags were in Lot 50, when actually they were in a statue of a scarlet fish, or a RED HERRING.
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