GemGerl
Reptile Researcher
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Post by GemGerl on Mar 3, 2005 11:45:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure who JS actually is but maybe JS is a character that hasnt been introduced yet?
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Post by Dante on Mar 3, 2005 11:48:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure who JS actually is but maybe JS is a character that hasnt been introduced yet? The general consensus on that is that it would be stupid, because we'd never have been able to guess their identity and thus all our debates would have been a waste of time. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 3, 2005 21:37:33 GMT -5
But wouldn't that be just Handler's cup of tea? To watch us constantly deliberating and desperately attempting to decipher clues to figure out JS's identity then he comes in and just shows us a whole new character and overthrows it all.
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Post by Dante on Mar 4, 2005 11:27:29 GMT -5
But wouldn't that be just Handler's cup of tea? To watch us constantly deliberating and desperately attempting to decipher clues to figure out JS's identity then he comes in and just shows us a whole new character and overthrows it all. It'd also be a serious insult to our intelligence. No good mystery writer uses that trick. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 4, 2005 20:34:42 GMT -5
I didn't think he would, I just said that it sounded a bit like something he'd enjoy doing.
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Post by RockSunner on Mar 5, 2005 0:41:17 GMT -5
I didn't think he would, I just said that it sounded a bit like something he'd enjoy doing. I think he'd enjoy surprising us, it's a rule in mysteries that there should be a fair clue somewhere -- someone with at least a hint of a J. or S. in their name. Here's a far-fetched one... suppose Carmelita is a nickname and her real first name is Juliet or something. She could be J.S. at a huge stretch with her last name of Spats. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 5, 2005 22:09:11 GMT -5
nonononono. Does Carmelita look like someone who'd want to conceal their name? No, she's so big headed she puts it out for everyone to see, forcing a notorious villain to name a submarine after her.
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Post by RockSunner on Mar 6, 2005 0:45:06 GMT -5
I said it was a huge stretch. I was trying to find a least-likely suspect we hadn't considered yet with at least an S in her name.
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Post by snicketfilepg13 on Mar 6, 2005 1:57:49 GMT -5
I'm sure its someone we have read about in the books, but someone we've overlooked.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 6, 2005 21:10:27 GMT -5
Someone said it might be a spats parent but I don't believe that either.
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Post by pokemonfreak27 on Mar 27, 2005 13:12:16 GMT -5
In the tenth book, at the destoyed V.F.D headquarters, the baudelaires find a can of jelly with the letter J.S in it. They thought it was Jaques Snicket, but I think Lemony wouldn't make it that easy to figure out. I also think that J.S means Jermome Squalor (former baudelaire guardian) what do u think??  |
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Post by RockSunner on Mar 27, 2005 20:04:32 GMT -5
Jerome is on the J.S. suspects list all right, but in my opinion he is a poor candidate for the "Jam Jar" J.S.
Jerome, at least right before he married Esme, was not a member of the V.F.D.. We know this from the letter from Jacques on pp. 122-124 of LSUA. He tells Jerome "I am a member of an organization that requires its members to pretend to be various occupations...". If Jerome were in the V.F.D. no such explanation would be required.
No one would write to Jerome in an obscure V.F.D. code like the Verbal Fridge Dialog, because he wouldn't be able to read it. Unless you think he was recruited after Jacques' letter and he is a fast learner, or he is a spy and he convinced someone he was a V.F.D. member.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Mar 27, 2005 22:20:38 GMT -5
I doubt it. Jerome doesn't seem intelligent, evil, or shrewd enough to be a spy. Someone may have given him a message for JS by mistake and he might've messed stuff up though.
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Post by RockSunner on Apr 3, 2005 23:14:03 GMT -5
Here's another idea for "Poe's note" J.S.. It would be a completely legitimate twist, but a person no-one has guessed yet as far as I know.
Poe said he believed the note was from Geraldine Julienne. We totally dismissed this idea because Poe is a fool and the initials don't seem to match. But suppose Poe is correct. "Geraldine Julienne" might be a pen name, perhaps her first and middle name, with a true last name starting with "S." Poe might know this. Even he is not stupid enough to read "J.S." and think "G.J.".
How did Geraldine know to send Poe to Briny Beach? She works directly with Count Olaf, so I can imagine an exchange like this on the Carmelita:
Olaf: "Fiona, you let the Baudelaires go!? Tell me where they went or I'll kill you!"
Fiona: "All right, I'll tell you. They said they were going to Briny Beach."
Olaf: "It's too late to intercept them, but I can telegraph Geraldine Julienne to send Poe to collect them. When they get to the police station she can trick Poe and get them into our hands."
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 4, 2005 18:02:32 GMT -5
I've thought of her having a last name that we don't know about starting with S. It's logical and it makes sense.
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