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Post by volunteer on Nov 8, 2005 4:55:23 GMT -5
I know this isn't strictly book 12 topic, but why did the siblings parents put olaf in their will anyway? surly they knew how evil he is back then?! or.. maybe he was on the good side then defected...hmmm
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2005 5:48:42 GMT -5
One of the biggest misconceptions about the books is that there was some mystical list of relatives for the children to be sent to. In fact, it is not once stated that such a thing exists. Mr. Poe states that the will states that the children are to be raised as conveniently as possible, and interprets this as sending them to their closest relative, or to their nearest relative geographically, or both.
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Post by Antenora on Nov 8, 2005 6:26:18 GMT -5
I've often wondered why the Baudelaire parents put that in their will, if they knew Olaf was living nearby. I suspect that there was another person, better qualified as guardian, living still closer, but Olaf got rid of them. Or, it's possible that Olaf forged the will(which originally had more specific instructions), changing it subtly to give himself custody of the children.
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Post by lauren on Nov 8, 2005 6:55:06 GMT -5
Yes I agree with your suggestion that Olaf messed with the will, Antenora...that is the only reason I can think of which explains the baudelaire parents carelessness
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Post by volunteer on Nov 8, 2005 7:49:43 GMT -5
. Mr. Poe states that the will states that the children are to be raised as conveniently as possible, and interprets this as sending them to their closest relative, or to their nearest relative geographically, or both. AHH, thats right, forgive me, i read that it was the will for olaf and that kind of....overwiten that memory... TA EDIT-- Speaking of wills, why hadn't the beuds been allowed parentage from justuce struss, under the reason that the will specifys that only relatives can raise them, but later on they are adopted by mills, the squalors and even a whole town.. A major overlook or is mr poe working for olaf....duh duh DAHHHHHHH |
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2005 9:33:49 GMT -5
EDIT-- Speaking of wills, why hadn't the beuds been allowed parentage from justuce struss, under the reason that the will specifys that only relatives can raise them, but later on they are adopted by mills, the squalors and even a whole town.. I guess Mr. Poe forgot about Justice Strauss, or the Baudelaires did, or Handler did. Somebody forgot about her, I guess. Or maybe she was really busy with the High Court, or had vanished from her home because she was too busy following the Baudelaires. |
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Post by volunteer on Nov 8, 2005 9:39:07 GMT -5
And judging by the end note, the last book is definate
ly gonna be called The Ersarni End
The End Is near =
The Esarni End
The Conclusion of a series of books, involving fire and ,or a vast fortune.
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Post by Antenora on Nov 8, 2005 9:45:48 GMT -5
You got that from the UnfortunateEvents.com forum. "Esarni" is not a real word; it's just something someone made up. And this isn't really the place for B13 title speculations. I guess Mr. Poe forgot about Justice Strauss, or the Baudelaires did, or Handler did. Somebody forgot about her, I guess. Or maybe she was really busy with the High Court, or had vanished from her home because she was too busy following the Baudelaires. That's probably what happened, and I'd forgotten about her myself. Or maybe she's actually marginally farther away than Olaf, as she lives next door to him. It'd be just like Handler to have all this misfortune depend on a small technicality like that. |
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Post by volunteer on Nov 8, 2005 9:48:38 GMT -5
You got that from the UnfortunateEvents.com forum. "Esarni" is not a real word; it's just something someone made up. And this isn't really the place for B13 title speculations. wuh? nono it is a real word, i can see it in my dictionary,...i am in the libary you know... besides i dissusing what the anagram of the end is near is, so is on topic...............HA. UNLESS.. i am wrong..why would it be the dictionary then??? im confused |
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2005 9:51:13 GMT -5
I knew that that hoax would reach here eventually. I wonder if you were taken in, or if you're trying to trick us? "Esarni" is not a real word, and it certainly has nothing to do with conclusions, books, fires, or fortunes. That title, and the accompanying cover that came with it, was a hoax by somebody on UnfortunateEvents.com. Let me just emphasise that point, as I know there are a lot of very, very stupid people here. IT'S A HOAX. IT'S NOT REAL.Here's an explanation why the cover, at least, is fake, which I hope will be enough for you, considering that the proof that "Esarni" is fake can be found in any dictionary:  [Taken from UnfortunateEvents.com, like this lousy hoax.] Edit: Point 5: There should be a black border behind the border picture of the chains. Point 6: The blank white art and lettering inside the cover picture is too tacky to be the actual "Art Not Yet Revealed" text, and it's inconsistent with how they did it for the British B12. Point 7: It's too short at the bottom and too high at the top. So, in short: Never mention this again, ever. |
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Post by Sora on Nov 9, 2005 1:53:34 GMT -5
I'm sorry Dante, but who the hell, thought they could get away wih THAT. The Esarni End? That's worse than The Putanessca Pernwatboo. And just as a point, why would the British cover be released first? The book hasn't even been finished yet, so I doubt under ANY circumstances that we will be viewing a real cover till August 2006.
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Post by Dante on Nov 9, 2005 2:38:45 GMT -5
Precisely. And while I don't really want anyone mentioning this rubbish ever again, I'll look sympathetically on people flaming the idea.
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Post by lauren on Nov 9, 2005 6:07:45 GMT -5
Is esarni even a word! *looks it up* no, no it isn't....sorry i mentioned it (but not 'again' because this is the first time i've commented on it)  |
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Post by Antenora on Nov 9, 2005 6:58:04 GMT -5
It might mean something in another language, but it's certainly not an English word.
And on an unrelated note, I've realized that the man in the yellow coat on the TPP cover can't be Hugo, as some had suggested(and I rather suspected). The attendant in the Chapter 4 illustration is revealed to be Hugo, and he has more hair than that man.
But, can we identify anyone else on the cover? It still bothers me slightly that there are so many unidentified characters in the foreground.
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Post by lauren on Nov 9, 2005 7:09:31 GMT -5
The only ones we can be sure of are Kit and the Baudelaires... However i am still under the impression that the woman with the fur coat is geraldienne jullienne and is hiding a pen and notepad behind the bald man.
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