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Post by Dante on Apr 8, 2006 5:38:49 GMT -5
The off-topic question that I thought of about bidding has been quite confusing because I'm stupid. Sorry. It was Esme all along. She said this in TSS while they have Sunny Baudelaire as a kidnap victim on Mount Fraught. *talking to Aura of Menaceers* "That's the youngest Baudelaire. We're keeping this one around to do our bidding, until we steal the Baudelaire fortune"I assume that this will happen also in B13, because their hasn't been(? - grammar) something mentioned about some bidding in both book 11 and 12. ...In this context, "bidding" refers not to auctions but to chores and hard work that Sunny must do. dictionary.reference.com/search?q=biddingbid·ding n.
A demand that something be done; a command.
A request to appear; a summons.
Bids considered as a group, as at an auction or in card games: The bidding was higher than expected. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 8, 2006 20:06:33 GMT -5
Wait ,why are we discussing the definition of bidding? Weren't we talking about the incredibly deadly viper and how it could kill, be a good friend, and possibly communicate in code?
I'm a bit confused.
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Post by Dante on Apr 9, 2006 2:20:12 GMT -5
Wait ,why are we discussing the definition of bidding? Weren't we talking about the incredibly deadly viper and how it could kill, be a good friend, and possibly communicate in code? I'm a bit confused. It was just a tangent that came up. We can carry on now. Did Monty say where he discovered the Incredibly Deadly Viper in the first place? *checks* He says he brought it back from his last journey, although I don't think he says where that was to. Probably not Peru, though, since he asks Klaus to read up on Peruvian terrain, and probably other things which imply he hasn't been there. Making random connections, I wonder if it was discovered on the mysterious island (depending on how many people know about it)? Although that might result in a bunch more of them turning up, which would probably be fairly lame. |
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Post by Sora on Apr 9, 2006 3:34:37 GMT -5
I believe he made refrence to a South American nation, I'm fairly sure, Brazil.
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Post by MontyInTheSnow on Apr 9, 2006 9:32:02 GMT -5
Monty may have said to the Baud's that it was harmless but with Stefano soon to arrive he may have mentioned it as a ploy!
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Post by cwm3 on Apr 9, 2006 11:08:09 GMT -5
But Sunny was bitten by the viper.
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Post by twistedbrain on Apr 9, 2006 11:09:13 GMT -5
The bite was a sign of affection, like a hug. It was it's way of saying it liked her.
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Post by Dante on Apr 9, 2006 11:18:17 GMT -5
Yeah. Like a dog.
On a serious note, Sunny and the Incredibly Deadly Viper were great friends, as evidenced on page 185 of TRR:
"Viper!" Sunny shouted, and began to crawl toward the Reptile Room.
"What my sister means," Violet explained, "is that she's very close friends with one of the snakes. Could we just take one with us - the Incredibly Deadly Viper?"
Plus I recall them being pretty friendly in the rest of the book, too.
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Post by cwm3 on Apr 9, 2006 11:57:16 GMT -5
i was talking to montyinthesnow, who was suggesting the viper was actually dangerous.
on the topic about captain sham, is it a possibility that olaf killed him to avoid awkwardness whilst posing as him?
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Post by Dante on Apr 9, 2006 12:57:01 GMT -5
Ah, I see. I myself couldn't quite make out montyinthesnow's point, and so yours was lost to me... Tangentially related to the topic, but eh, there's only so much you can say about some things. If Captain Sham's a real person, then it's a distinct possibility that Olaf killed him, although it raises the question of why Olaf's impersonating somebody, when all of his other disguises are just plain made-up. (Or so we assume.) (Ignoring the fact that they're literary references.) (Unless you agree with my theory that V.F.D. has generic names for certain disguises, explaining the multiple Captain Shams and the literary allusions.) Also, anyone who knew that Captain Sham was the captain of the Prospero would certainly find his presence at Damocles Dock rather odd, since he should have been cruising the seas at the time - but that applies whether Sham is alive or dead.
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Post by cwm3 on Apr 9, 2006 14:26:07 GMT -5
But Captain Sham (Olaf) setting up a sailboat business seems rather unlikely...how would he go about doing so? It seems more likely to me that Captain Sham was running the sailboat business (since the Prospero was elsewhere or something, make up your own theory), and Olaf, as part of his plan to get the Bauds, killed Sham (presumably in the same way he disposed of Aunty Josey) and posed as him.
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Post by jman on Apr 9, 2006 19:03:48 GMT -5
Seeing how the VFD disguise kit (from TUA)works, I would say that your theory is right Dante.
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Post by Hanae on Apr 12, 2006 21:05:54 GMT -5
I also agree with Dante.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Apr 18, 2006 20:52:11 GMT -5
Him setting up that business so quickly also rather mystified me.
Hm. But even if the real captain sham were supposed to be on the Prospero, the adults in asoue are dim enough not to notice that he's in two places at once so Olaf wouldn't even have had to dispose of him.
There again, Olaf is the capricious type of person that would kill someone to impersonate them rather than making up a new disguise simply because he felt like it. If the killing and impersonating is true it would appear that Olaf was simply in that sort of mood.
More IDVs would actually be cool. There can't be just one of the species.
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Post by Strider on Apr 19, 2006 12:51:35 GMT -5
I agree with the multiple IDVs but that would make it even more confusing; how would the Baudelaires know if the one sunny played with were the same, or the different? They probably were the same, unless they all had the same personalities...
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