egad
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Post by egad on Jul 16, 2006 20:29:11 GMT -5
What are the Beatrice Letters?
that's a bit off topic, but i really wanted to know
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Jul 16, 2006 20:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jul 16, 2006 20:34:49 GMT -5
The Beatrice Letters is a book coming out on september 5th including letters written by Lemony's beloved Beatrice. Thus far we're received a quote from one detailing the bad habits of a boy in Beatrice's class named O.
This book will hopefully explain a great deal giving book 13 more time for action and less need for exposition.
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Post by Brownie on Jul 25, 2006 21:30:12 GMT -5
Violet MUST! become a traitor!
It's just cool that way.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jul 28, 2006 21:24:43 GMT -5
I hope no one's a traitor to the bauds.
But someone from Olaf's side betraying him would be excellent. Except that already happened with the white faced women and Fernald. And a bit with the sinister duo at the end of tpp.
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Post by thistledown on Aug 19, 2006 20:21:53 GMT -5
To a previous comment about Quigley probably not being a traitor: I read in a thread somewhere on here about how he knew a huge amount of info on the bauds...it just seems odd...something about him is definitely not right...and yes, it would be awesome if Violet was bad...She's my favorite character (next to count olaf), though despite this, I hope she dies in The End...the apple and the posion and her reaching for it--I dunno. But it would be cool! But back to Quigley (I know I've mentioned this and/or heard this before but--) his name is random compared to Isadora and Duncans...or is it? It is uncannily close to 'quisling' which means, as aforementioned, 'traitor'...so...yeah...
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Aug 20, 2006 8:03:12 GMT -5
I don't think Quigley's name is intended to sound like "Quisling"; he was first mentioned in TAA, and we're not sure if the Baudelaires were intended to meet him at that time. More likely, it's just supposed to alliterate nicely with "Quagmire". And as mentioned before, I doubt he'd turn against the Baudelaires. He's very much like them-- he's done sinister things like spying(while he knows a lot about the Baudelaires, so do Lemony and his associates) and stealing helicopters, but for noble causes, and furthermore he seems to quite like Violet.
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Post by Brownie on Aug 20, 2006 11:55:05 GMT -5
It's just alitteration to me.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 20, 2006 13:22:05 GMT -5
Meh. While the two names do sound similar maybe that was done to fool us into thinking he was a traitor. Handler's tricky like that.
Why would he betray them though? He's currently trying to rescue his siblings from the other side, why would he ally with that other side against the baudelaires when they've killed his parents, his mentor(jacques), and attacked his siblings?
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Post by thistledown on Aug 20, 2006 21:54:28 GMT -5
I see the point. However, how did he know the Baudelaires were aboard the Queequeg? There's something odd there...
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Post by Brownie on Aug 21, 2006 15:58:11 GMT -5
I know this is going to end up with someone being mad, but was Quigley mentioned in TPP? I can't remember. And, how did Q meet Kit? Off Topic: Maybe the noble side of VFD is weary or untrusting of the Bauds... They (Bauds) have done some un-noble thing in their past. I just kind of got that idea out from nowhere... Some of the VFD-ers seem... a bit nervous (?) when talking to the Bauds. I think they know something that we don't.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 21, 2006 20:50:14 GMT -5
Quigley and Kit met in a clothes shop disguised as mannequins. Quigley probably met up with other volunteers after tss and discovered from other volunteers that the Queequeg had been heading toward HQ, and knowing the Bauds to be afloat near HQ a natural assumption is that they found their way aboard.
Kit told the Bauds that Quigley received an urgent telegram/distress call from his siblings saying that the eagles were attacking them in their sshamh. Quigley stole a helicopter from a botanist to go help them out.
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Post by jpgr007 on Sept 15, 2006 18:34:43 GMT -5
It seems to me that the Bauds are fringe members of VFD if at all. So how could any of them be traitors to the group. They dont seem to know enough about the members or group secrets to be traitors.
Although LS seems to want to show throughout the books that good people sometimes feel that they have to make hard choices - the lesser of two evils. Which is probably how any traitor scenario will play out.
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Post by theplaceboeffect on Nov 24, 2006 11:13:38 GMT -5
Oh yeah, one more little thing about the FFP: At the end of TGG, with that ?-shaped ship that Olaf was afraid of--we never figured out who that was. It can't be the man with a beard but no hair and his woman accomplice because they were with the freaks (please correct me if I am wrong). Violet also told her siblings to be quiet then. Nextly, this was not said in the book, but I got a feeling--just a gut feeling--that Violet knew what it was. Could it possibly be the FFP? no, because they were in the 'fifteenth century' apparently and from some equipment and etc in the books they are clearly at least early 20th century. When are the books set though? It always confuses me. my first post by the way, i never post on greetings boards, they're too cliched. |
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Post by Dante on Nov 24, 2006 11:27:41 GMT -5
I don't think the books are set in any particular time or real-world place, but the intended effect seems to range from a kind of gothic Victorian atmosphere to the early twentieth century. The ocean settings, particularly the island, are the sort of setting where pirates would exist, and Captain Widdershins states in TGG that the Queequeg (which Kit Snicket helped to build, making it probably no more than thirty or forty years old) has been attacked by pirates. "Current members of the F.F.P." are mentioned in the TBB Rare Edition notes. I think that the important factor is not any kind of all-encompassing time placement but the elements of the genre a certain setting is characteristic of (or rather, what Handler wants to put his own take on in his newest book).
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