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Post by Dante on Mar 3, 2008 4:15:56 GMT -5
The book Beatrice wrote to Lemony explaining why she couldn't marry him isn't a real, published book that we can buy, nor have we been shown any excerpts of it; as such, there is no page 189, and nobody except Daniel Handler knows what the thirteen questions would have been. You just have to guess, where possible.
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Post by jman on Mar 15, 2008 9:01:56 GMT -5
I know that the message is commonly thought to be BEATRICE SANK, but when I first solved the anagram, I found A BRAE SNICKET. Seeing as how TBL talks of Snicket being on a brae and such, is it possible that the letters have multiple meanings?
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Post by Dante on Mar 15, 2008 9:17:01 GMT -5
I think that one's a red herring. I wouldn't be surprised if Snicket introduced the word "brae" to The End and TBL just so we might get that anagram out of the letters and go on a wild goose chase speculation. "BEATRICE SANK" wouldn't be half so obvious without the TBL poster, which I doubt Handler planned for when he was writing the book.
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Post by jman on Mar 16, 2008 17:50:48 GMT -5
OK, thanks.
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Post by Jacob on Apr 13, 2008 2:03:42 GMT -5
So basically the Baudelaires died and so did Kit's baby because the ship sank? What a crappy book!
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Post by Dante on Apr 13, 2008 2:42:41 GMT -5
I think you should read The Beatrice Letters. Kit's baby didn't die, and the Baudelaires probably didn't either.
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Post by Jacob on Apr 13, 2008 3:06:49 GMT -5
I did read it. And it said Beatrice sank. The ship they were on. It was an ocean. I don't think they swam their way out of that one. Not with two little kids.
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Post by jman on Apr 20, 2008 18:02:37 GMT -5
Yeah, but Beatrice (Kit's kid) said in TBL that she heard Sunny on the radio, so they must have survived. In the books it says that Beatrice (the boat) keeps moving from owner to owner (Baud parents... Olaf... Baud kids), so I think that one of the ship's next owners (after the Baud kids) sank it. I think the whole BEATRICE SANK thing is a sort of red herring from Daniel Handler.
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Post by F*** THE DAILY MAIL on May 17, 2008 12:28:02 GMT -5
I kind of agree with jman- though Beatrice and the Baudelaires got seperated somehow.
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Post by beatrice21 on Jun 24, 2008 21:18:00 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] I love this site. Sorry for saying this random stuff but I always thought I was the only one who thought like this. [/glow]
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Post by Hermedy on Jun 25, 2008 11:39:59 GMT -5
You are not alone.
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Post by whatisvfd on Jul 9, 2008 15:53:10 GMT -5
I wish it told more about VFD. Who's Beatrice?? Why's the sugar bowl so important??? What was the schism??!!!!! Plus, I don't get TBL.
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Post by Dante on Jul 10, 2008 2:08:03 GMT -5
Beatrice is the mother of Violet, Klaus, and Sunny. Is there anything more you want to know about her?
It's true that that sugar bowl and the schism are never fully explained, and indeed the information on them sometimes seems a little inconsistent.
What don't you understand about TBL?
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Post by Vanja on Jul 30, 2008 13:00:30 GMT -5
i've been reading here all this post and i'm not believing what i'm reading here, you look like you don't get it this is written on this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemony_Snicket"Snicket was believed to be dead by the Baudelaire parents, as "The End (Book the Thirteenth)" states that, following with the tradition of naming children after someone who has died, Violet was to be named Lemony if she was a boy." this is also written in the last book Beatrice is the Baudelaire's mother. Beatrice broke off her engagement with Lemony because she believed Lemony to be responsible for crimes committed by Count Olaf this is announced on the same page I believe when Count Olaf said in the last book ''I've lost everything, my parents, my one true love'' i think he ment Kit, he must have been in love with her but she didn't want to have anything to do with him because of two reasons: he was so treacherous and the fact she was already in love with Dewey Denoument, Count Olaf grew jealous and angry and took that out first on the Baudelairs who were the children of Kit's brother's Lemony true love and her husbands later Olaf was very eager to kill Dewey Denoument because of this fact I Rest my Case
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2008 8:16:00 GMT -5
i've been reading here all this post and i'm not believing what i'm reading here, you look like you don't get it this is written on this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemony_Snicket"Snicket was believed to be dead by the Baudelaire parents, as "The End (Book the Thirteenth)" states that, following with the tradition of naming children after someone who has died, Violet was to be named Lemony if she was a boy." this is also written in the last book Beatrice is the Baudelaire's mother. Beatrice broke off her engagement with Lemony because she believed Lemony to be responsible for crimes committed by Count Olaf this is announced on the same page No arguments here; that's quite right, although you could debate a bit about why Beatrice broke off her engagement with Lemony; it's a vague point. Again, I agree. A bit indirect a reason to be going after the Baudelaires, though? And Olaf only found out that Dewey even existed in TPP, so I don't think he'd have known Kit was involved with him. Although he might well have heard Kit was pregnant, which wouldn't do much for his state of mind.
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