the sugar bowl [spoilers I guess]

[Omar]

When did he say that?

[Dante]

omar said:

When did he say that?

The 21 Questions, perhaps.

Dupin said:

13. Will information on the sugar bowl, the Great Unknown, what became of the Quagmires, the fate of the Baudelaires, or even the truth behind V.F.D. ever be disclosed, or is it left up to the readers to draw their own conclusions? Do you know all of the answers? - Dupin

If readers draw their own conclusions and speak of such conclusions out loud, then this information will indeed be disclosed; otherwise one might wait for more Snicket books, which would likely contain shrouded answers and further frustrations.

[violet]

didn't Lemony Snicket say once that HE has it?

[Dante]

In TPP, he implies that a character has it, and it's also implied that this character is himself. So, yes. It's the sequence where he talks about the taxi driver who offered to take the Baudelaires away from the hotel.

I do know who the man was, and I do know where he went afterward, and I do know the name of the woman who was hiding in the trunk, and the type of musical instrument that was laid carefully in the back seat, and the ingredients of the sandwich tucked into the glove compartment, and even the small item that sat on the passenger seat, still damp from its hiding place, but I cannot tell you if the Baudelaires would have been happier in this man’s company, or if it was better that he drove away from the three siblings, looking back at them through the rearview mirror and clutching a monogrammed napkin in his trembling hand.
TPP, p251

[fordxprefect]

I do know who the man was, and I do know where he went afterward, and I do know the name of the woman who was hiding in the trunk, and the type of musical instrument that was laid carefully in the back seat, and the ingredients of the sandwich tucked into the glove compartment, and even the small item that sat on the passenger seat, still damp from its hiding place, but I cannot tell you if the Baudelaires would have been happier in this man’s company, or if it was better that he drove away from the three siblings, looking back at them through the rearview mirror and clutching a monogrammed napkin in his trembling hand. (Bold added for emphasis by the post writer)

In TSS, didn't Snicket say he needed to retrieve the pickle from the headquarter's refrigerater to put it in an important coded sandwich? I think this supplies yet more evidence that the cab driver was Snicket himself.

Reason for Editing: added "from the headquarter's refrigerater" for clarification

[Dante]

That's what I think. I also remember someone connecting that to the fact that one item in the fridge in the headquarters - unused in the Verbal Fridge Dialogue that Klaus decoded - was lemon juice, which could link Lemony to the fridge and, we now know, to the pickle.

[quiethere]

I think that the sugar bowl might have some sort of evidence against Count Olaf or somebody on the bad side of the schism.

[tamagon]

I think that the Sugar Bowl had different items at different times.

[fordxprefect]

I always thought the sugar bowl had a small sample of horseradish. . .one that would never run out or something. . .just in case all the villans of the world destroyed all the rest of the horseradish.

[violet]

I think the sugar bowl has two of things:

1.Some evidence guaranteed to set the innocent voluneers free and put villans in jail.
2.Something that can help someon survive Medusoid Mycelium,a harpoon gun,or a fire.

Now,I know that the evidence would probaly be damaged from the Stricken Stream,but in book 10,it said something like this:
(explaining the fire in the headquarters)".........and one brave volunteer throwing a small container,with a lid to protect important secrets out the window so no villan would find it
So,there's probaly and advanced lid,and probaly another lid inside it,to protect the evidence inside.The evidence is probaly a tabe recorder or a sealed document.

Note:anyone who has the book is welcome to correct the quote,as I curently don't have the book.

[Dante]

The quote you're thinking of may actually come from TGG: "And a small, ceramic bowl, with a tight-fitting lid to keep something important inside..." So we can accept that the sugar bowl was a pretty secure model that wasn't going to spill its contents and probably wasn't going to let water in.

That said, sugar bowls are pretty small; there's not much evidence you can get into one. You might have better luck with horseradish, but since that being in the sugar bowl wouldn't actually fit all other evidence known about the sugar bowl, I favour the interpretation which says that the reference in The End to Beatrice hiding horseradish in a vessel in case of the Baudelaires' banishment from the island referred instead to the clay jar of beans aboard their boat, the Beatrice.

[melon head.]

It's a crucial part of the plot. It keeps the readers hanging, it gives the Baudelaires something to hunt for as Volunteers. I think that inside might be a tape- a recording of something that will send the man with the beard but no hair and the woman with hair but no beard to prison, and clear LS's name once and for all. Or possibly a file, one even more important than the Snicket Files. By the way, I reckon Handler should publish the Snicket Files on his website or something along those lines.

[futuramaisback]

lemony took it in his cab (an object still damp from its hiding place)
and used it to clear his name yeah thats a speculation from wikepidea but i gotta say i agree with it

kindofmonday said:

in The End while Klaus was reading the Series of Unfornate Events underneath the bitter apple tree he was reading an entry by his father that said "Incase of a mutiny Beatrice has put some of it in a ves..." and then Klaus coughs....in the Penultimate Peril it said that volunteers sometimes refer to the sugar bowl as the Vessel for Dissacharides.
so there is probaby some kind of antidote..whether it be horseradish or applesauce in the sugar bowl

and the taxi driver couldn't have been Lemony because he said that he did not know who the taxi driver was in the penultimate peril

no he said i do know who the driver was and where he went afterwards and so on and so forth

Reason for Editing: mod edit: double post

[quiethere]

I had another thought on it. Maybe it was holding evidence but maybe it was being held in the sugar bowl to disguise it. Then, when VFDers were passing it along to Dewey's (or someone elses) secret catalog, avillian intercepeted it and had heard what was in it, passed it to a fellow villian, etc.

[Tay Sachs]

Maybe it was that ring.