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Post by unwelcomeguest on Dec 18, 2007 14:27:51 GMT -5
up till now, i've been nothing but a lurker, but for the good of the general public, i need to share my theory. i like the idea of there being multiple sugar bowls. it lets us explain the evidence for the sugar bowl containing both horseradish and a recording device without much problem. BUT i think that the important sugar bowl (the one picked up by the taxidriver who i believe to be snicket) is the information-holding sugar bowl. thus far everyone has been generally adverse to the idea that it could contain information because sugar bowls are small, and how could the VFDers fit documents etc into a sugar bowl? but computers DO exist in snicket's world, so who's to say that there isn't some sort of computer chip or flash drive inside the sugar bowl containing vast amounts of information about VFD and olaf and esme and all of the codes and minutes to VFD meetings .... all that information would be incredibly valuable, AND it would be able to fit into a sugar bowl
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Post by RemainedOnShoals on Dec 27, 2007 12:43:27 GMT -5
If Lemony Snicket did not put the Sugar Bowl in the story. And if we cute other secrets and things that we probably never quess.Then, the story of Baudelair Orphans stay simple and accustomed.
Boundless questions which follow behind another boundless questions.
Lemonu Snicket contributed huge precious thread in story of Orphans.
That way we read all the 13 books and did`nt lost unfurling interest about the story.
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Post by thedoctororwell on May 15, 2008 12:57:14 GMT -5
I am a strong defender of the "multiple sugar bowls" theory, as it could allow to get rid of some plot holes and fit with the VFD way of doing things, but I still can't find a reasonable solution to "this" sugar bowl's content. * "Super-mega-ultra-dangerous-for-the-"bad"-side-of-VFD-piece-of-evidence theory : We've got Dewey's librairy's list of evidence, which could have sent all the "evil" VFDers to jail. Esmé described the Snicket file as "the only one file that could send them all to jail." The sugar bowl is definitely a bigger fish, it can't be that. It would be franckly repetitive... By the way, what is in this sugar bowl seems to have been there for a long time, whereas clues always lose some worth as time goes. * Horseradish theory : Lame. You can buy horseradish in a grocery, why would they make such a deal with the sugar bowl in this case ? Especially if the antidote's composant is not such a big secret : Kit knew it, I assume others would. More importantly, this is a stupid plothole. If they're searching for the cure to the fungus' poison, it's to be able to control the fungus' destructive power. But each side of VFD thought the Medusoid Mycelium business totally over after Anwhistle Aquatics' fire ! Fiona bringing them spores of the fungus was a total surprise to Olaf and his allies ; as they were searching for the sugar bowl before that, WHY would they interest themselves in the antidote to something they think as gone and now impossible to obtain ? For some reason I now prefer to think it's a kind a dangerous weapon. Maybe even something so powerful that would pass as "magical" in our world. And a stuff difficult to destroy, to explain why the good VFDers didn't get rid of it when they had the chance. Well, the sugar bowl mystery sure is a tricky business... I go to a french forum on Asoue and half of the posts on the "sugar bowl" thread are made by newbies who think it contains the Snicket File. ::)When you kindly remember them it has been entirely recollected and destroyed in TSS they say they'll stick to their theory.  |
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Post by Dante on May 15, 2008 13:19:28 GMT -5
Your analysis really hit the nail on the head. I generally follow the "super-mega-ultra-hyper-etc. piece of evidence" theory, as it seemed like the books were going that way, but it's not as if there aren't plenty of other pieces of evidence that definitively prove the guilt of Olaf and just about everyone else on the other side of the schism. Knowing aSoUE, the way the Great Unknown was presented in The End, I'm almost tempted to think that the sugar bowl's contents are a literal MacGuffin, or something else abstract like "the end of all the mysteries." |
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Post by Sailor Bellairs on May 17, 2008 18:21:04 GMT -5
I think there is most definitely more than one sugar bowl, its just a sugar bowl!
Thats all it is, a sugar bowl but the VFDers learnt to hide things in them. So anyone could put a message or a weapon in a sugar bowl they found lying around.
So i would expect the sugar bowl in TPP is one with info about Olaf and Esme in and thats why it would be bad for anyone to find out and the reason Dewey got it is to add it to his library.
Someone said the driver didn't get the sugar bowl but they did, they said that on the seat next to them there was a wet sugar bowl. I think there is even a reference to someone diving into the hotel lake. Someone check that...
Also, my theory is that it is a sugar bowl because, as the famous quote suggests, VFDers like tea without sugar, so they always had empty sugar bowls hence them being a good thing to store things in.
I think that is why the quote about tea is in there.
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Post by Dante on May 18, 2008 3:03:03 GMT -5
Someone said the driver didn't get the sugar bowl but they did, they said that on the seat next to them there was a wet sugar bowl. I think there is even a reference to someone diving into the hotel lake. Someone check that... Strictly speaking, it doesn't exactly say a sugar bowl - it's actually a " small item that sat on the passenger seat, still damp from its hiding place," which is near enough for me, but some would be happy to argue. And while there isn't a reference specifically to somebody diving into the hotel lake, there is a near miss: "... on the other side of the hotel [from the pond] , a woman in a diving helmet and a shiny suit shone a flashlight through the water and tried to see to the murky bottom of the sea." The taxi driver also has a woman hiding in the trunk of his taxi; I don't think it's too wild a conclusion to infer that this woman and the woman in the diving suit are one and the same, and that investigation eventually led her to dive into the pond rather than the ocean, and she retrieved the sugar bowl. As noted, though, it's all very vague; alternative explanations, ones that don't link these events at all, are possible. I don't think that precise spin on it's been suggested - that volunteers never have sugar with their tea, so the sugar bowl's always got space for items to be hidden or passed. |
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Post by lordi on May 29, 2008 3:49:56 GMT -5
Okay, if the sugar bowl really did contain a weapon then it would have to be pretty small. Both sides of the schism wanted it so it must not be evil or else the volunteers would not want to use it. Maybe it was some indestructable evidence against one of the sides? I guess we will never know.
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Post by Hermedy on May 29, 2008 4:12:15 GMT -5
Actually, it could be something "evil." The volunteers might just have wanted it so that the other side of the schism couldn't use it.
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Post by F*** THE DAILY MAIL on May 29, 2008 15:45:45 GMT -5
Actually, it could be something "evil." The volunteers might just have wanted it so that the other side of the schism couldn't use it. Yes, exactly what I think. ----- It'll be hilariousz if they find it, and it's empty. Or if it's a McGuffin, which it probably is.. |
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Post by L on Dec 17, 2008 5:33:00 GMT -5
Hey, hey maybe.... its not important at all!  Probably they just really need a place to put their sugar...  he, he... ... i'll stop talking now |
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