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Post by cwm on Oct 22, 2018 12:55:23 GMT -5
I can't think of any moment in the series where children actually die, though... so the idea of the Quagmires actually dying, let alone in such a gruesome matter as being devoured by a sea monster, doesn't sit right with me.
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Post by Foxy on Oct 23, 2018 8:15:32 GMT -5
Mind, the Jonah allusion earlier is worth bearing mind. Could be the Great Unknown swallowed, but didn't kill. Maybe the Great Unknown is Monstro or something. Maybe the GU is the Loch Ness Monster! |
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Post by Grace on Oct 23, 2018 9:47:12 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right, it's definitely a Jonah allusion. I'm forever going to be unsatisfied with his narratively abandoning the Quagmires. They were my favorites back in the day.
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Post by Foxy on Oct 26, 2018 9:41:45 GMT -5
I just read a quote from Captain Widdershins in chapter five of TGG.
"Aye! Think of the crafts we saw on the sonar screen! Think of Count Olaf's enormous submarine, and the even more enormous one that chased it away!"
So he calls both the Great Unknown and the Carmelita "crafts," which would insinuate they are machines, not living creatures. Then he speaks about Count Olaf's submarine, and the one that chased it away, which would lead me to believe "one" is a pronoun referring back to "submarine."
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Post by Uncle Algernon on Oct 26, 2018 10:50:40 GMT -5
What if someone built a Bombinating Beast-shaped machine, just like the “Carmelita” was octopus-shaped?
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Post by Dante on Oct 26, 2018 15:20:01 GMT -5
I must admit, while I never wanted the Great Unknown to be explained, my inclinations were always more towards a gargantuan submarine than a gargantuan sea monster. So I would be comparatively content to believe that a gigantic Great-Unknown- (or Bombinating-Beast-)mimicking submarine was prowling the seas along with its inspiration, and we could never be sure which was which.
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Post by Hermes on Oct 26, 2018 16:20:49 GMT -5
That's an excellent idea, but too much to hope for, I fear. (What the captain says, of course, tells us only what he thinks it is. And we know he is wrong about a number of things.)
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Post by cwm on Oct 26, 2018 16:37:57 GMT -5
And Widdershins is willing to take his chances with it in The End - I wonder if that is a symptom of the original plans for The End changing, though.
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Post by vastdepartment on Jan 1, 2019 18:39:51 GMT -5
I feel like it was originally intended to be a metaphor for concluding something, and everything that raises from an ambiguous conclusion. Handler saw what he could do with it, and turned it into the Bombinating Beast.
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