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Post by gliquey on Sept 8, 2015 11:57:39 GMT -5
How about this: the sugar bowl contains eggs of whatever species the Bombinating Beast is.
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Post by Dante on Sept 8, 2015 12:36:54 GMT -5
Sorry, theories that are not just physically possible but actually conceivable are not allowed.
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Post by Hermes on Sept 8, 2015 14:58:05 GMT -5
Hm. 'You know how important that thing was, and how many lives were lost in the quest to find it.... You know what it means to the Baudelaires and what it means to the Snickets.' It might fit, though we haven't seen a link with the Baudelaires yet. And I think Captain Widdershins suggests at one point that there is a connection between the sugar bowl and the GU. It would still need some explaining how Esme fits in. But yes, it sounds quite plausible; the sugar bowl contains the BB, in egg form.
My original belief was that the GU was the BB, in the sense that it was the source of the legend, but that its precise nature would remain mysterious; it would never actually be confirmed that it was really a beast. But now that Hangfire seems to be trying to breed a BB, it's not clear that that will work (unless Hangfire has got it wrong). Yet if in fact its nature is going to become clear, why does Kit, much later, say that her brother (not clear which brother) calls it the Great Unknown? Much remains obscure.
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Post by gliquey on Sept 8, 2015 15:45:17 GMT -5
I don't think there has to be any connection between these three mysteries, even if it has been implied that the Bombinating Beast and Great Unknown are related. I wouldn't like the Great Unknown to be revealed, and would prefer if the contents of the sugar bowl were kept secret, but I could certainly stand it if the Bombinating Beast was explained in ?4, as long as it didn't also reveal the entire secret of the Great Unknown. (In fact, did Handler say the BB secret would be revealed, or that we'd at least understanding the meaning of the statue, or something like that?)
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Post by Dante on Sept 8, 2015 16:19:37 GMT -5
We've been told that, by the end of the series, the mysteries of Ellington Feint and the Bombinating Beast (in context, the statue) will be solved, so that should be a guarantee. Other things might not be so clear-cut, but I think it's very telling that ATWQ has been extraordinarily explicit on the purpose and mission statement of V.F.D. right down to what the initials stand for. This is a very different series to ASoUE.
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Post by B. on Sept 9, 2015 7:30:33 GMT -5
I reckon the major loose ends in ATWQ will be tied up, and I think there might be some hints/further information on things pertaining to Asoue that definitely 'approach that question mark from a different angle.' I don't think it will be solved- and I would hate if the Great Unknown or Sugar Bowl mysteries were explicitly stated.
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Post by Dante on Sept 9, 2015 8:53:34 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I think it's not impossible that the item Kit stole from the museum is the same as whatever ends up being in the sugar bowl, but I don't think we'll find out what it is.
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Post by J-Bird on Sept 9, 2015 18:39:16 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, the item Kit takes Is described as being in the wrong ownership, and the initials of that Vault Fortification Door would point a faint finger towards that item being a sugar bowl, or the contents of said bowl.
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Post by veryfakedonkey on Oct 19, 2015 18:40:35 GMT -5
It could be the Bombinating Beast from ATWQ. They have similar shapes and it did kill someone so it makes sense to fear it.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Nov 9, 2016 0:24:42 GMT -5
Here's my extremely ludicrous (and unoriginal) theory:
The submarine theory and the Bombinating Beast theory...mixed into one and have something to do with the Female Finnish Pirates.
I don't remember where exactly in this forum, but someone said they think the Great Unknown is controlled by the Female Finnish Pirates. My guess is that the FFP somehow came across Ellington Feint, who was either taken prisoner or joined them, and she suggested creating a submarine modeled after the Bombinating Beast. That submarine became known to the V.F.D. as the Great Unknown.
Or maybe the GU IS the BB and the pirates were just a throwaway comment in the series.
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Post by Dante on Nov 9, 2016 3:15:53 GMT -5
All of those elements at once is a bit much, but if the Great Unknown were a submarine, then it's hard to imagine it could be inspired by anything but the Bombinating Beast.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Nov 9, 2016 19:39:15 GMT -5
All of those elements at once is a bit much, but if the Great Unknown were a submarine, then it's hard to imagine it could be inspired by anything but the Bombinating Beast. Makes sense. If the BB is such a monstrosity, why would anyone build a submarine inspired by it? But then again, Daniel Handler loves red herrings, so maybe the hints at the GU being a submarine (mentions of a sonar detector, but whales have sonar-like senses) and the constant mentions of the Female Finnish Pirates were possibly bigger red herrings than Red Herring from A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. That and for some reason this very fine ditty (a word which here means "song") from a movie I hate sounds like a fitting theme for the Great Unknown: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAYV8X-RX64
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Post by poppyfieldsofpoison on Mar 5, 2017 15:15:15 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm coming in late, but I like to think that it was representative of the bombinating beast legend? Of course I don't know for sure, but that seems more fitting than it being a physical concept of death. If you look at a picture of it, and turn it upside down, it could look like a question mark. But that's just my take on it.
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Post by poppyfieldsofpoison on Mar 5, 2017 15:17:26 GMT -5
Someone else said that and I didn't realize it, so sorry. Oops.
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Post by coolcat667 on Mar 22, 2017 12:15:03 GMT -5
I think that it isn't an actual thing, but just a way of saying that Lemony Snicket doesn't have enough information to have any good idea of what happens next.
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