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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 20, 2012 4:50:31 GMT -5
Also, you can be Jewish no matter what you look like. You don't have to look like the "stereotypical" Jew. Just look at the actor's Sara Paxton or Ben Foster, for instance, they both come from Jewish families, they are very proud of their heritage and yet they look absolutely nothing like the stereotype.
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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 19, 2012 23:27:15 GMT -5
Well, I truly believe that Bertrand is the biological father to all three of them. And that Lemony just doesn't have any children. I just don't think that's what Handler wanted, I thought it was obvious in the series that Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire are the parents of Violet, Klaus and Sunny. End of story. If it turned out Snicket was the father, Handler would have mentioned it in the series or at least put in a clue, but there is none. And from the way some of the storylines happened in the series, including TBL and UA, Snicket's love for Beatrice was more on his side, meaning I don't think she loved him as much as he did. I believe she did love him, I don't doubt that, but I don't think it was as strong as how he felt toward her. And also, she's the one that broke up the engagement and wrote him a LONG letter of reasons why she couldn't marry him. And it just seemed obvious to me that this all happened way before Violet was conceived. And then after Snicket was presumed dead, Beatrice was probably very upset, but knew she had to move on, and in a way she already did, because even before he "died" they were already broken up for some time. And that's when she fell in love with Bertrand, married him and soon after she became pregnant with Violet. Yes, I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinions and theories and that's great! That's what makes it so much fun! But to me, this just seems more believable in the series, and I think Handler made it so. Unless Handler talks more about the series we will never know, but according to him, the case of the Baudelaire's is closed, so I don't think there are any "paternity" secrets at all. And the Baudelaire's were already on the island for some time when she was pregnant with Violet. With them working on the island to make it more usable for the islanders and all.
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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 19, 2012 21:51:06 GMT -5
One of the things I've noticed after reading the series that I found interesting is that even though Lemony is still very much in love with Beatrice and obviously, he always will, he does not seem to be angry or bitter in any way towards Bertrand. He doesn't have what I like to call the "Snape attitude", (HP spoilers...........................................) like how in Harry Potter with Snape having a nasty attitude toward Harry and despising James for "stealing" Lily from him. Snicket on the other hand doesn't appear to have those feelings at all. And in fact whenever he writes about the Baudelaire parents he has nothing but nice things to say about both of them, that put them in a positive light. Especially how whenever he talks about Bertrand he paints him as a very loving and caring father for his children. Of course he understands that everyone thought that he (Snicket) was dead, so he knew Beatrice would have to move on, and I'm sure he was thankful that someone like Bertrand would be the one that Beatrice would fall in love with and marry; and that if anyone is good enough for Beatrice, it had to be Bertrand.
And from the clues in TBL and UA, that mention that Lemony, his siblings, Beatrice and Bertrand all grew up together at V.F.D. I'm sure that Lemony and Bertrand were quite friendly with each-other. And since Bertrand was on the "good" side of the schism, then I'm sure Lemony was quite relieved that Bertrand would be the one to marry Beatrice, and love her, and take care of her and give her their three children, and be a good father to them. He probably knew that Bertrand would make a good family man.
So anyway, I just found it interesting that there appears to be no ill will between Bertrand and Lemony and that Lemony is just glad that Bertrand was there for Beatrice. He doesn't appear to have an attitude that Bertrand "stole" Beatrice away from him, and he feels that if Beatrice is happy, then that's good enough for him.
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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 19, 2012 21:00:39 GMT -5
Wow, Hermes that is so funny! I have actually thought about the possibility that Duchess R is gay too! Probably because like you said, when Snicket mentioned in TBL that he finds it sad that it will be a while until women are finally able to marry each-other. (which I think obviously reflects Daniel Handler's liberal views that he supports same-sex marriage) What's interesting is that out of all the characters, he choose "R" when making that same-sex reference. Which made me think that way. I've actually thought about writing a fanfic that has Duchess R and Sally Sebald (Gustav's sister) having a thing for each-other. I chose Sally since her last name is Sebald meaning she possibly has never married. Unless she did get married and kept her last name, who knows. So Sally might be gay too, for all we know. As a matter of fact, Snicket/Handler seems quite gay friendly, if you read close enough there are certain "clues" throughout the series including TBL and UA, there are possibly some references to same-sex relations. And in my opinion Sir and Charles seem to be quite more then just "business partners", but I think that's been discussed already.
By the way to LSWannaBe, I'm sorry but a person cannot "turn gay", you have to be born that way. Sexuality is not something you choose. It's not a "lifestyle". Besides I highly doubt a straight person just wakes up one morning and says to themselves, "you know, I think I'll have sex with one of my friends today who is the same gender/sex as I am", yeah.... no. Not likely. I don't know what your sexuality is of course, but assuming your straight, I really don't think you've ever had the urge to be sexual with someone of your same sex. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest, because I have gay/lesbian family members, and I'm protective of them. And to the other person who also thinks R is a gay, and referred to her as "gay/lesbian". Uh, that's the same thing; lesbian means: gay females.
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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 19, 2012 19:30:54 GMT -5
I'm a Nasty Newcomer, I have just finished book the 13th, I really enjoyed the series, I'm kind of sad it's over but I am very happy this site exists!
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Post by friendofvfd on Feb 15, 2012 18:43:34 GMT -5
Sorry ThatEvanguy, and anyone else, but I don't think Lemony is the father of anybody. Remember, Beatrice and Bertrand had already been living on the island for quite a few years when Beatrice became pregnant with Violet. So Lemony cannot be her father, or any of the others.
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