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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Jul 11, 2015 6:51:23 GMT -5
I questioned the authenticity of this @eleanorapoe Twitter account (it really looks like whoever this is is just trying to piggyback off the attention the teaser is getting, but then again, I don't have any proof of this), but this blog looks pretty nice and detailed. The top post is a letter about one of her articles, which I have accordingly decoded with Sebald Code (spoilers below if you don't want to miss the fun of decoding it yourself), but anyway here's what it said: Volunteers needed emergency if anything suspicious call 92 nine two 74 three four seven three no names line not safe others are listening Thanks for sharing the link, it's most interesting! I would definitely give them a ring, I'm sure, if I weren't adjusting to a new phone. It's just, I believe, to say that making calls on a device too recently acquired to an area beyond the Atlantic wouldn't be cheap. There seems to be a whole chain, or a ring, perhaps, of phone numbers to call here, and since we can't be sure which are official and which are fake, I can't afford phoning up the Americas every time a new one surfaces. There's also another post on the site in which the Sebald code is applicable, just below the letter: "Thank you for ringing. Don’t think we are ignoring your message. At the Punctilio, we believe that staying busy at work on our next story is what makes us the best newspaper around. Our dedicated, hardworking staff. We rarely are at the office. Thank you for calling. Please leave your message after the bell ring."
I was taken off guard with the last word of the message. I would've expected "claim", "reveal", "say" or something similar. The way the message is, it's kind of an odd turn of phrase. |
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Post by Dante on Jul 11, 2015 8:03:51 GMT -5
Can you make out what Ms Palmer means? It is oddly ungrammatical. "The trailer is fake but I liked it. I hope Netflix calls me if they actually need anything." In other words, either she's lying or she knows nothing about licensing of the music. That's assuming it was licensed at all, which is doubtful - it doesn't appear to be the only video on YouTube with that music, so evidently they're not issuing takedowns for non-profit use. |
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Post by Hermes on Jul 11, 2015 8:34:54 GMT -5
Yes, I'm puzzled by the idea that it would inevitably have been taken down - though in this case, although no one is actually selling it, it does look as if it's being used to raise the profile of their business, so 'non-profit' may not quite fit.
On the other hand, it may be they deliberately decided not to get it taken down, because they liked it, and thought the association would be good for them.
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Post by VicePresidentOfOrphanAffairs on Jul 11, 2015 10:41:56 GMT -5
Guys! I just called that number, and it takes you to the Anwhistle Aquatics Tip Hotline! It was the coolest thing ever, I can't tell you exactly what they said because of my excitement after hearing Anwhistle Aquatics, and it said not to, but definitely call that number!
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Post by E.F. on Jul 11, 2015 11:24:08 GMT -5
I just called that number as well, it certainly was quite clever! I also looked up the area code--turns out they are from New York City.
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Post by gliquey on Jul 11, 2015 12:52:35 GMT -5
I was taken off guard with the last word of the message. I would've expected "claim", "reveal", "say" or something similar. The way the message is, it's kind of an odd turn of phrase. Yes, it is rather odd. Maybe they were trying to make the message rhyme. To be quite honest, I've written more eloquent messages in Sebald code myself. Guys! I just called that number, and it takes you to the Anwhistle Aquatics Tip Hotline! It was the coolest thing ever, I can't tell you exactly what they said because of my excitement after hearing Anwhistle Aquatics, and it said not to, but definitely call that number! I just called that number as well, it certainly was quite clever! I also looked up the area code--turns out they are from New York City. Oh come on, spill the beans. I can't call the number myself. What did it say? |
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Jul 11, 2015 13:11:18 GMT -5
Give us a transcript or something. It's too expensive to call someone in the US from Indonesia for something so trivial. I'll be broke!
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Post by reptilepatrol on Jul 11, 2015 13:32:53 GMT -5
Oh whoops, I just took a closer look at my screenshot of the Tweet in my notificarions ( here if anyone's interested) since she deleted the actual Tweet and it turns out it was just a retweet from another account (@gregoranwhistle) which may or may not be linked to the entire Eleanora Poe on Twitter drama (the account seems to have been created fairly recently, as does the blog, and the very first tweet was to Eleanora Poe, but I haven't looked into it yet). This makes it seem less likely that this is related, but it was pretty interesting. Continuing on about the music, I recently read that the song is actually from 2003, which would probably make a difference in regards to copyright protection: I find that YouTube's copyright protections for anything released before YouTube itself was made is generally weaker/more lax than protection for music released nowadays or just generally after YouTube itself was made. Not nonexistent, but generally a bit more lax, however, as shown through the band's postings on social media, they certainly are aware of their music being used, and do have options at their disposal for getting it pulled down. The fact that it hasn't been pulled down yet - as well as the lack of any acknowledgement of proper copyrights in the description - leads me to believe that this was either authorized, or TDD/Warner Music simply don't care that the music is being illegally distributed without the appropriate attributions, which is unlikely. Even nonprofit use generally requires a proper acknowledgement of the appropriate copyright holders, right? Anyway, has there been any new news in regards to the teaser? |
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Post by bandit on Jul 11, 2015 13:36:10 GMT -5
The hotline sounds like a little kid
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Post by ironic impostor on Jul 11, 2015 14:03:04 GMT -5
A few things. We'll start with the less important elements and move on to the more important one that I haven't seen very many people hit on.
1. I agree with bandit. The Anwhistle Aquatics hotline sounds like nothing more than a kid who recorded an interesting "leave a message" thing for his home phone. Just saying. I'm willing to give Netflix credit for thinking of everything, and therefore even making the people behind the phone numbers sound like they're fake and can immediately be discounted, but I don't know if I'm willing to believe they'd put THAT much effort into making it sound so easy to discredit.
2. Has it occurred to anyone that, whoever's behind this, whether it's Netflix or some really talented fans, has managed to create a debate over two sides of a vague issue that has enough evidence supporting either side of it that it could be considered rather silly to fight over it until we gain more information? In other words, doesn't this remind you of a little thing called a... SCHISM?! *Cue dramatic groundhog* Just something I noticed and wanted to make a pun about. Now on to the thing that I think is actually somewhat important.
3. Has anyone realized that we may be asking all the wrong questions about this teaser. Don't get me wrong, I spent the last few days mercilessly trying to figure out the origins of this thing as well. I'd done my own research before I remembered that "667" was even a thing that existed (I don't visit it as regularly as I'd like to, sorry, but I do love the community), I've followed this forum, and I've driven friends of mine who don't even remember the series that well insane with constantly talking their ears off about all my theories of who's behind this. But it hit me yesterday night that I think we're all asking the wrong questions. We mostly seem to be concerned with whether this thing is "real" or "fake". Shouldn't we be more concerned about whether or not it was a well-made adaptation of the books from a thematic standpoint? Isn't that what we really want out of any type of film adaptation, whether it's 35 seconds or 35 hours? We've always got the books for the stories and their content, but now we have something visually representative of the themes and ideas with the books, while also being incredibly well shot and put together. Think about what this thing has managed to do to people.
It got us interested in dissecting it. It gave us a puzzle to construct in which all the pieces fit, but many different pictures can be formed. You can either trust Netflix and form the picture that they want you to believe is on the front of the box, or you can put it together in your own way and hope you end up with something that still makes some form of sense. And at the end of the day, isn't that part of why we love these books? That they're an active puzzle on the part of the audience? Isn't that what this trailer captured better than any other adaptation has done to date? As far as I can tell, whomever made this clearly wanted fans to go berzerk for it, which we did. We even went so far as to say that Netflix distancing themselves from it is all part of a huge viral marketing conspiracy. (Something I still believe, by the way. Just to throw it out there.) It NAILED the themes and ideas present throughout all the books and did it in a concise,clear, amazingly well made and reference filled 35 seconds. Even if it is a stand-alone entity, why does it really matter. We'll find out soon enough if it's definitively real or not. Whether it's because Netflix eventually comes out and says it is, or if it's because they put out their own trailer for the series at some point in the not-too-distant future. Either way they're making the series, and if this turns out to be real and is a good example of what to expect from them down the line, then that's all well and good. If it's not, then hopefully they're cooking up something just as good anyway.
Yes, having a fairly definite indication that Netflix isn't going to screw this up would be wonderful, but even if this trailer is real it's still not that. The show still could turn out to be either really good or not good at all, no matter how good this particular piece of filmmaking is. What it is, though, is an expertly crafted piece of filmmaking that managed to hit on all the major themes of the books in a really interesting way. So maybe the question we should be asking is not whether or not it's real, but whether or not we think the series will be able to so aptly handle the themes and ideas present within the novels in a way just as good and interestingly as this did? Just food for thought.
But just for the record I think (and really, really hope) that it's real.
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Post by Hermes on Jul 11, 2015 15:14:15 GMT -5
I agree, II. Even if this were from Netflix, it doesn't actually tell us what the series will be like, because it's concept art, not a narrative scene, and not directed by the person who will direct the series (obviously, because they haven't been hired yet.) And I can't believe that the actual series will have as much work put into it, proportionately, as this has; it would take several years to record, if it did. The most it could do is show their commitment.
As for the AA thing, as far as I can see it doesn't even claim to be connected; it says it's investigating the video.
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Post by Agathological on Jul 11, 2015 18:01:38 GMT -5
I've been suckered into some fake viral marketing in my time. This, I don't honestly know what to say. It could be, as Dante put it, gamejackers.
I'm going to follow it; no harm in it right?
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Post by VicePresidentOfOrphanAffairs on Jul 12, 2015 9:01:34 GMT -5
I'll call Anwhistle Aquatics again later today and try to get a transcript of the message, but I didn't think it was cheesy, I thought it was great, but that could be because I'm excited to be a part of something happening in the ASOUE community right now  ? |
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jul 12, 2015 9:50:26 GMT -5
Got my hands on a saved copy of Eleanora Poe's deleted Tweet in my notifications, where she shared this link: anwhistleaquatics.com I am almost completely sure that this website is fan-made. The 'Nautical' design theme used there has been around for ages and is a standard free option for your tumblr look. Most 'official' Tumblr pages for things like movies or TV shows have a custom made design and credit the companies they belong to. The AA logo looks like it's just some ClipArt as well. |
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Post by alexandre on Jul 12, 2015 11:58:46 GMT -5
The website definitely sounds fan made,
"What We Are: Welcome to Anwhistle Aquatics, a blog dedicated to giving you the most up-to-date information regarding former employee Lemony Snicket, this Netflix Business, The Daily Punctilio, and any other veritable fact dispensaries we come across while Gregor is…away. Consider this a safe place, volunteers always welcome."
That, to me, sounds like fans trying to gather the most informations in a single website. They have the voicemails recordings etc ... I don't know ...
Curiouser and Curiouser ...
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