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Post by .:Hermione 2.2.4:. on Jan 22, 2005 17:31:45 GMT -5
J.S. is Justice Strass and i know how to prove it.... In LSUA, one of the disguises is a judge. But...Why was she so suprised when she found out the play was real? 1) she is on the other side of the schism 2) she is an actor like olaf (except a lot better) 3) she really is a judge 4) a combination of the above -VioletIsadora* Would someone sending a telegram to Justice Strauss actually send it to J.S.? Her first name could be anything, for all we know. It just seems a weird way to address someone (JS) if it's only their official title that starts with 'J'. Maybe her first name is Joanne or something else that starts with a J
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 22, 2005 20:47:01 GMT -5
Or maybe since that's what everyone knows her by they use her title even in sending her telegrams since they don't know her first name.
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Post by c45 on Jan 30, 2005 16:23:29 GMT -5
Or maybe since that's what everyone knows her by they use her title even in sending her telegrams since they don't know her first name. It seems like anyone who knows Justice Strauss well enough to send her a telegram would make a point of knowing her first name, including her enemies, whichever side of the schism or individuals those may be. And if someone DIDN'T know her well enough to know her first name, they probably wouldn't be deeply involved in VFD or the schism at all, and would simply address the telegram to 'Justice S' even though that's horribly informal, and it would show a great deal more propriety to address it to 'Justice Strauss.' Edit: Also-- her name could start with J, that's true. If a list of literary figures either with or relating to the name 'Strauss' could be found, and a play on that literary character's name could start with J, I'd be more heartly convinced.
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Post by RockSunner on Jan 30, 2005 19:57:56 GMT -5
Edit: Also-- her name could start with J, that's true. If a list of literary figures either with or relating to the name 'Strauss' could be found, and a play on that literary character's name could start with J, I'd be more heartly convinced. There's Johann Strauss, a famous 19th-century composer. One of his most well-known works is the opera "Die Fledermaus" (The Bat) which has a masked ball and many disguises in it.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2005 21:41:02 GMT -5
I watched a movie about Johann Strauss once. But if Justice Strauss isn't in VFD a VFDer may just use a discreet JS in addressing her, using Justice as her first name. Or it could be done to throw off someone who DOES know her first name(if her first name didn't start with J) It's possible.
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Post by Hooky on Feb 6, 2005 13:30:01 GMT -5
Justice Strauss is J.S. End of story. Actually, I just don't have anything good to say.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 6, 2005 13:50:50 GMT -5
Ha. "Unfortunately the debate is not over."
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Post by RockSunner on Feb 7, 2005 23:37:19 GMT -5
Ha. "Unfortunately the debate is not over." Agreed, though the evidence for Justice Strauss is pretty strong. Here''s another bit. The case Strauss was working on at the start of TBB was the theft of a poisonous plant. We know from TBB-RE that this was a V.F.D-related case. Was it just a coincidence that she's involved, or did she deliberately get herself assigned to it?
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Post by Dante on Feb 8, 2005 11:20:47 GMT -5
I would hope that the justice system in aSoUE land isn't that corrupt...
In other words, I don't have an opinion. The details of that case interest me more than who is investigating it (although the former is not to be discussed in this thread; we've beated that particular horse well and truly to death).
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 8, 2005 21:25:56 GMT -5
Agreed, though the evidence for Justice Strauss is pretty strong. Here''s another bit. The case Strauss was working on at the start of TBB was the theft of a poisonous plant. We know from TBB-RE that this was a V.F.D-related case. Was it just a coincidence that she's involved, or did she deliberately get herself assigned to it? She could've although I doubt it. She made it sound like a long and troublesome case. At least I think she did. *shrug* Perhaps we should question if someone ELSE intentionally got her involved?
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Post by Mr L Snicket on Feb 12, 2005 0:43:05 GMT -5
At the moment of writing, I am inclined to say that the J.S. who is mentioned at the end of "The Grim Grotto" is Justice Strauss. The word that convinced me was Sunny's word - "Etartsigam" = "Magistrate".
However, because this seems like such an obvious solution as to who the mysterious J.S. person is, I am going to suggest someone else (there is other evidence already stated in other posts as to why I believe that it is very likely to be Justice Strauss and not someone else).
I am going to suggest "Sir" from "The Miserable Mill". Why? Because no-one knows his name. His initials could be J.S. There could be a lot more to this character than meets the eye. It is, in my honest opinion, that it will not be "Sir". I am merely adding a name which could be a possibility (however unlikely and for which there is no evidence for, other than no-ne knows his real name).
Mr L Snicket
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Post by RockSunner on Feb 12, 2005 10:40:27 GMT -5
"Sir" seems like a long shot, though there have been interesting speculations on another thread recently about his unhappy childhood.
There are other V.F.D. members whose names we don't know: The Prufrock librarian, The taxi driver from TRR, The Anxious Clown waiter, if "Larry" is a false name, The person who ran the souveneir shop in TCC, etc.
I think it would be poor style on Handler's part to use a character with a name we have no clue about as J.S..
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 12, 2005 20:40:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm almost positive that JS is some one (or some people) that we already know that have the initials JS(I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know...)
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Post by Dante on Feb 14, 2005 12:04:33 GMT -5
Quite, yes. It would be a very poor show if J.S. was a new character. However! I'm fine on new characters with the initials J.S. being involved in the "Who is J.S.?" muddle, so long as they don't turn out to actually be J.S. Either J.S.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 14, 2005 20:44:00 GMT -5
I suppose that doesn't really matter if we're able to rule them out. Just as long as they're not the actual solution.
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