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Post by Sixteen on Jul 21, 2006 4:24:53 GMT -5
What intrigued me most was "long before tbb and far beyond the end". Before tbb I expected, but Beatrice Letters after the end? Why, it almost sounds as if... "Will Beatrice, to whom Lemony Snicket has dedicated every book in A Series of Unfortunate Events, miraculously return?" "Alarmingly, one or more of these questions might be answered sooner than you think."
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Post by Dante on Jul 21, 2006 6:50:49 GMT -5
You're joking. I don't have this one even now! Ugh.
Edit: Anyway, yeah, aside from the fact that they seem to be timing these specifically so that I miss out for as long as possible, that's quite interesting and informative.
Edit Again: I wonder if they've stopped sending me mine again. And if we're perfectly willing to believe that they're reading our posts and trying to defy our expectations, I honestly am perfectly willing to believe that it's being done solely to inconvenience me.
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Post by Gigi on Jul 21, 2006 8:21:35 GMT -5
Yes, Dante. I'm sure the fine people at HC have nothing better to do than to plot and plan how they can mess up your life.
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Post by Dante on Jul 21, 2006 8:45:48 GMT -5
Hmph. Maybe you're right. But it's awfully inconvenient.
Anyway, I've been doing some thinking about the contents of this AuthorTracker in relation to TBL and such. The allusion to a possible return by Beatrice is something that's been speculated for a while, and that the contents of TBL apparently go on past The End certainly support that - but could that merely be a red herring? Or perhaps the last few letters in TBL by Lemony are delivered to somebody but we don't know who, or he receives some mysterious letters (or a telegram) from Beatrice but he isn't sure it's really her? The two secrets mentioned are probably Beatrice details that are important to B13, or something like that. It could all be an elaborate red herring, but there is certainly something fishy (...no pun intended) going on here. Also, that TBL's materials include things like coded sonnets (Verse Fluctuation Declaration, perhaps?) and a telegram is great, it sounds like the U.A. in that respect, but the plea for help between them - does that mean that one of them asked for help from the other? My guess is Beatrice was asking for help with the serious crime Snicket helped her commit before her death. It could also, if it stretches past B13, clarify some parts of the U.A., and have it turn out that they're post-B13 - but I maintain that anything with the Baudelaires past The End would probably be missing the point. Hm, is it the end of their story or just of their misfortune?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2006 8:51:32 GMT -5
I didn't get one yet either. Maybe I spammed the last one.
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Post by FROZEN ACCOUNT on Jul 21, 2006 8:57:32 GMT -5
I just got mine.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Jul 21, 2006 9:21:26 GMT -5
I just got mine, too, listed at 4:57 GMT, even though I'm in USA Central time zone.
It isn't just you, Dante - they're torturing ALL of us! Well, everyone except Gigi. It's all part of a cunning plan of misfortune, to help us experience fully the theme of the books.
EDIT: By the way, did you notice the subject line, "Beatrice Unveiled"? I wonder if there's a double meaning in that . . .
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Post by Dante on Jul 21, 2006 10:03:31 GMT -5
EDIT: By the way, did you notice the subject line, "Beatrice Unveiled"? I wonder if there's a double meaning in that . . . I only just noticed that the subject lines were unique at all; I've added them to the type-ups in the first post. All the information about Beatrice we will presumably receive would also be an unveiling of a kind, the revealing of a character we've thus far known so little about - and it seems to me that if we were ever to see a full, non-obscured picture of Beatrice, TBL would be the place to have one.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Jul 21, 2006 10:32:17 GMT -5
Actually, I was thinking of a double meaning, as in wedding veil. Her marriage to Lemony didn't occur, so she was "unveiled."
OK, I'm dumb.
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Post by Dante on Jul 21, 2006 10:44:22 GMT -5
Actually, I was thinking of a double meaning, as in wedding veil. Her marriage to Lemony didn't occur, so she was "unveiled." OK, I'm dumb. Triple meaning, perhaps? The - I think it was the penultimate BBRE note, the one concerning Violet in a wedding dress, implies that Beatrice (well, a deceased female) had at least been conspicuously dressed in a wedding dress at some point, so something in TBL as you suggest would not be unlikely.
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Post by egad on Jul 21, 2006 21:11:41 GMT -5
I haven't read this whole thread, so i don't know if i'm the 1st one, but the Shocking Secrets message is "He is finished."
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Post by Dante on Jul 22, 2006 2:15:36 GMT -5
Yeah, that's been known the whole time. Sorry, but it's not particularly difficult to work out.
For the record, I haven't received the latest AuthorTracker, and since it's been more than 24 hours, I assume I never will. I've signed up with AuthorTracker again under my usual e-mail address and under another one.
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Post by The World Is Quiet Here on Jul 22, 2006 7:18:43 GMT -5
I got mine Friday 21st at 5:24 GMT
But anyway the whole 'extends far beyond The End' could mean she sent a couple of letters and they got lost in the mail and he didn't recieve them till after TE *winces at pathetic idea*
Does anyone else think it's odd that despite TBL extenging far beyond TE TBL are coming out before TE!
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Post by Libitina on Jul 22, 2006 12:29:17 GMT -5
But anyway the whole 'extends far beyond The End' could mean she sent a couple of letters and they got lost in the mail and he didn't recieve them till after TE *winces at pathetic idea* Hmm...I know we've said that the ASOUE movie had no real basis in the series, but perhaps the letter that "never came" was foreshadowing this. It's a possibility.
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Post by SnicketFires on Jul 22, 2006 20:50:29 GMT -5
... and a telegram is great, it sounds like the U.A. in that respect, but the plea for help between them - does that mean that one of them asked for help from the other? My guess is Beatrice was asking for help with the serious crime Snicket helped her commit before her death. You theory about the plea for help is plausible, I agree. However, I was thinking that perhaps the plea for help between them was when Lemony was forced to flee the country (mentioned in LSUA, pg 96-8, and TMM, page 53), presumably after helping Beatrice with her crime. Jacques tells Lemony that he "must not communicate with B. at all, not even by telegram or carrier pigeon." (In pages 96-8, LSUA) but perhaps he did, to plea for help. ...Now that I've written that, Dante's seems more likely. I've recieved the AuthorTracker now, at 12:25 am, I assume PST. So that's...eight twenty-five am GMT.
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