The End, Is It Really The End?

[camirox]

Obviously the end is not THE END. He can't just leave us Hanging. I agree that he will start another seiries nder a new name but he will probally just keep making more supplementary books. He might make a book the 14th but that is unlikely. ( Also, did you notice that all of the titles of the main books are alleterations except for The End?)

[truthson]

There’s a possibility of a 14th because there is a 14th chapter in The End. On the aver hand, a 14th book would not fit in with the theme of unlucky thirteen, yet neither does the 14th chapter in The End. All in all, there is a chance that the end of the end is in fact not the end.

[mylifeisquiethere]

OMG i have every book 1-13 and beatrice letters and nothing makes sence
i even read the biography on lemony
HELP

be my friend

[Dante]

Why don't you tell us what in particular you don't understand, and we can try and explain it to you? (Although it's worth pointing out that a number of mysteries don't have definite answers.)

[fordxprefect]

camirox said:

Obviously the end is not THE END. He can't just leave us hanging. I agree that he will start another series under a new name but he will probably just keep making more supplementary books. He might make a book the 14th but that is unlikely. ( Also, did you notice that all of the titles of the main books are alliterations except for The End?)

Apart from fixing your spelling mistakes, camirox, I do have one thing to say. . .yes, I've noticed all the titles except The End are alliterated. I think pretty much everyone's noticed it.

And if Handler made a new book, it'd have to be Book the Fifteenth. . .because the 14th "chapter" was not a chapter, it was literally a whole other book. . .it had its own title page and copyright page and book list and everything.

[K]

truthson said:

There’s a possibility of a 14th because there is a 14th chapter in The End. On the aver hand, a 14th book would not fit in with the theme of unlucky thirteen, yet neither does the 14th chapter in The End. All in all, there is a chance that the end of the end is in fact not the end.

Perhaps The End is not the end of A Series of Unfortunate Events, but the end of something else...?

[jellybean]

In the book, 13 thing you didn't know about Lemony Snicket, or wateva it's called the last thing (no. 13) says that 'He is finished'. Which means he has finished writing the books.

[K]

jellybean said:

In the book, 13 thing you didn't know about Lemony Snicket, or wateva it's called the last thing (no. 13) says that 'He is finished'. Which means he has finished writing the books.

Hmm...maybe it is only the end of the series itself, but there are more things coming that are not really a part of A Series of Unfortunate Events? (e.g. Lemony Snicket: The Unauthorized Autobiography)

[Dante]

I consider the supplements to be part of A Series of Unfortunate Events (although they're usually referred to separately for clarity, given that they are strictly speaking optional); the U.A. (and, it goes without saying, TBL) contains a significant amount of material that wouldn't really be transferable to a non-aSoUE context, and indeed it's even framed with the story of the Baudelaires in mind ("These are simply not the proper questions: In the interest of keeping the Baudelaire file as accurate as possible and as focused as feasible I have retitled each of the thirteen chapters..."). Handler's said a number of times that aSoUE is over, although Lemony Snicket is not; even while the series was going Handler had written a number of other non-aSoUE items under the Snicket name, although none of them were really what might be called full novels. I expect some, given time, though.

[K]

I mean the series itself. I'm saying that there's not going to be a Book the Fourteenth...er, Fifteenth, but something else.

[fordxprefect]

The End could be. . .the end of Kit's and Olaf's lives? The end of Kit's pregnancy? The end of Ishmael's reign on the island? The end of VKS's Series of Unfortunate Events?

Speaking metaphorically here.

jellybean, I LOVE your siggy!!

[unhesitant]

Hmm.... interesting ideas, really they are. And end to the series, yes I belie that Lemony Snicket (Or Daniel Handler, whoever you wish to believe he is.) is a man of his word. But... and end to the books entirely? Highly unlikely. Unfortunate as it may seem to some, I believe that he will continue, by using another title as if it is a new series. Whether it would follow the Quagmires, or the BAudelaires, it matters not. (Although it would be surprising for Mr. Snicket to abandon the BAudelaire's so completly, he may be their only hope) I believe that the new paperback series is just a diversion while the real "Lemony Snicket" scrounges up information, and is begining to write the next book. He has many a time stated that he is a coward, although I believe that he is braver than many. And I hope that he can set his fears aside to find out the truth, so that the rest of us members can contemplate it and solve the mysteries with him. The public needs to know these things, else the world should never be safe.

[fordxprefect]

. . .Do you think if he started writing about the Quagmires, he would start from the beginning of their story, or tell us where they went when they went to the Great Unknown?

[Dante]

With a disclaimer in place that I think any Quagmire books would amount to Handler selling out and would undermine the themes and ideas of The End...

The story of the Quagmires before the Great Unknown is boring. We get, what, one TBB/TEE/TAA composite book, two books of them sitting around imprisoned while Count Olaf gabbles exposition and backstory at them, then five or six books of them drifting around in the air unable to come down. Quigley's story is only marginally more exciting, for him there's a book or so spent sitting around in the Reptile Room while Jacques refuses to tell him anything, then a few books of aimless wandering, then a handful of events that we already know too much about for them to be exciting. Before the Great Unknown, the Quagmires's story is arranged entirely around the Baudelaires'; a book with the sugar bowl as the main character would be more exciting and allow Handler more freedom (and while I was joking, I should note that such a book could only exist to provide exposition that it's part of the point for us to never receive).

If Handler wants to contribute to the world of aSoUE again, I'd suggest character backstory that can stand up as a story on its own rather than merely supplementing the Baudelaires' story, or stories with entirely new characters that utilise the setting in a new and non-formulaic way.

[fordxprefect]

. . .actually a story about the sugar bowl wouldn't be such a bad idea. . .*plotting*

Maybe a book about how VKS's life was with their parents? But that wouldn't be in the same Unfortunate vein.