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Post by Flaneur on Aug 26, 2005 8:01:25 GMT -5
Yeah i soubt Daniel Handler would let them put something very very wrong in the movie Three words: Uncle. Monty's. Family. Four words and three initials: Baudelaire. Parents. Leaders. Of. V.F.D. On topic, I think that bringing Josephine back would be just the sort of thing Daniel would do, but I also don't think it's very likely that it will actually happen. I do hope she is mentioned, but I don't want her to come back - if anyone, I want Justice Strauss. Note that what I want may be influencing my views on what will actually happen... |
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Post by Master Of The Dark on Aug 26, 2005 12:27:46 GMT -5
We don't know that.
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Post by Flaneur on Aug 26, 2005 15:28:06 GMT -5
Well, perhaps the two things I mentioned aren't definitely untrue. However, I'm pretty sure they are.
If you listen to the Lemony Snicket commentary on the DVD, Mr. Handler mentions that the idea of Monty having had a family is a fabrication.
As for the Baud parents being the leaders of V.F.D....well, no one says anything about that, but I desperately HOPE that it isn't true. But you are correct, only time will tell.
It still stands that the movie is not the books and is rife with differences, even if only small.
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Post by SSebald on Aug 27, 2005 14:31:24 GMT -5
I don't think they are the leaders. It seems like VFD has been going on a lot longer than that.
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Post by Brian on Aug 27, 2005 17:42:59 GMT -5
Just because they are/were the leaders doesn't necessarily mean they are/were the founders. George Bush may be president, but Bill Clinton preceded him, and Bush Sr. preceded him, and Reagan, and all the way back to George Washington.
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Post by Question Mark on Aug 27, 2005 18:35:39 GMT -5
Aunt Josephine died in the second book!! Yeah guys, what's your problem! |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 27, 2005 19:55:06 GMT -5
*laughs cruelly*
They could be the leaders of VFD for all we know, the sinister duo even said they caused quite a bit of trouble when talking to Sunny, implying that they were very active members against the bad side of the schism. I wouldn't be surprised if they did turn out to be the leaders, but then they may be a bit young to be the leaders, VFD would probably have been lead by elder individuals like Jacob/Chas Snicket.
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Post by Master Of The Dark on Aug 28, 2005 13:05:10 GMT -5
There is no leader. From the UA, we know that there is merely a board commitee that together makes decisions, and the chairman, who could be seen as a leader, would be M. We do not know who M is, but perhaps he is a baudelaire parent.
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Post by Dante on Aug 28, 2005 13:19:35 GMT -5
That was just the Building Committee, though. It wasn't the management of the entire organisation.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Sept 1, 2005 20:59:49 GMT -5
They have a chancellor unless I'm mistaken, and a vice chancellor, those would seem to be their "leaders" and obviously they have various committees for the many various outlets and projects of VFD.
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Post by Antenora on Sept 1, 2005 21:04:11 GMT -5
They didn't mention a chancellor, but the presence of a "vice chancellor" implies that there is one. This seems to parallel the lack of an actual principal at Prufrock, despite there being a vice principal.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Sept 2, 2005 20:24:18 GMT -5
Good comparison.
Wow I just realized I'm way off topic.
It doesn't seem as if Ike was near the top of VFD's management, and it's still questionable if Josephine even knew about VFD at all despite the movie... Or I might just be forgetful at the moment, maybe there is proof she knew of it.
So if she is alive it's highly questionable whether she'd find her way to any VFD establishment.
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Post by Dante on Sept 3, 2005 2:16:48 GMT -5
According to Widdershins, Josephine knew about the Queequeg (and was surprised she hadn't told the Baudelaires about it). Not direct evidence, I know, but it implies she knew about V.F.D. And I reckon it would be difficult to be a member of a secret organisation which fights fires without your partner knowing about it, but that's just me.
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Post by Sixteen on Sept 3, 2005 15:15:47 GMT -5
According to Widdershins, Josephine knew about the Queequeg (and was surprised she hadn't told the Baudelaires about it). Not direct evidence, I know, but it implies she knew about V.F.D. And I reckon it would be difficult to be a member of a secret organisation which fights fires without your partner knowing about it, but that's just me. Josephine could have known about the Queequeg because Widdershins was a friend of Ike's and they would have met at dinner parties etc. Jerome Squalor didn't know his friend Jacques, the Baudelaire mother or even his wife were involved with V.F.D. Esmé was having an affair with a villainous arsonist posing as an auctioneer in their own penthouse and yet he didn't suspect a thing. So, in short, the spouses in the series have secrets. I'm not disagreeing with you, Dante. I'm just putting out all the possibilities. |
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Post by Dante on Sept 3, 2005 15:56:54 GMT -5
I quite understand. We can't let any possibility escape us.
Jerome's not, in my opinion, a very good example, though. His marriage with Esmé wasn't a particularly close one, and he strikes me as the sort of person who'd just think to himself, if he saw his friends behaving oddly, "Hm. What odd friends I have. They're dreadfully nice people, though."
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